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Recieved: 2002/01/12 09:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] new agers
From: Michael
On 2002/01/12 09:54, Michael posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Siska and all,
The following was posted in the Sufimystic group. I've read a couple different versions of it, and I thought it might be appropriate to this specific discussion. This comment is very simple, and perhaps over generalized, but here it is anyway: "Labels" cover the humanness of the person labeled, just as labels hide the contents of a clear jar. With that said here's the post from the other group:
Moses and the Shepherd
Moses met a shepherd on the road, who kept saying, "O
God!"
"Where are You?-- so I can become Your servant, and mend
Your sandals and comb Your head.
"(So) I can wash Your robe, kill Your lice, (and) bring
milk in front of You, O Great (Lord).
"(So) I can kiss Your small hand, massage Your small
foot, and sweep Your little (dwelling) place (when) the
time for sleep comes.
The shepherd was talking foolishly in this manner,
(and) Moses said, "O so-and-so, to whom is this (being said
to)?"
He replied, "To the One who created us, by Whom the
earth and the heavens came into view."
Moses said,
"What is this foolish talk? What is this gibberish and
ignorance of (true) belief? Press some cotton into your
mouth!
"Sandals and sandal straps are suitable for you, (but)
things like these aren't right for (One who is like) a Sun.
"Who are you telling this to? Your uncles? Are the
body and (bodily) needs among the (Divine) Attributes of the
Lord of Majesty?
(The shepherd) said, "O Moses, you've sewn my mouth
(shut) and burned my soul with regret and repentance."
He tore (his) robe, made a (deep) sigh, and quickly
turned (his) head toward a desert plain and left.
(Then) A revelation from God came to Moses:
"You separated Our servant from Us.
"Did you come for the sake of uniting or did you come
for the sake of separating and cutting off?
"I have given to every person a (particular) nature and
temperament, (and) I have given to every person a
(particular) form of speech and idiomatic expression.
"The idiomatic speech of Hindustan is the (mode of)
praise for the Hindus, (and) the idiomatic speech of Sind
is the (mode of) praise for the Sindis.
"I do not become pure and holy by their praise, but they
become purified and shining (by it).
"We do not regard the tongue and (outward) speech, (but)
We regard the soul and the (inward) state.
"We are the Observer of the heart, (to see) if it is
humble, even though the spoken words may not be humble.
"So many of these phrases, ideas, and metaphors! I want
burning, burning. Become harmonious with that burning!
"Ignite a fire of love in (your) soul (and) burn up
thoughts and explanations, completely!
"O Moses! Those who know polite manners are one kind.
(And) those who are inflamed of soul and spirit are another
kind."
The sect of Love (of God) is distinct from all
religions; the sect and doctrine of the lovers is God
(alone)
From "The Mathnawî-yé MaATnospamnawî" [Rhymed Couplets of
Deep Spiritual Meaning] of Jalaluddin Rumi.
Translated from the Persian by Ibrahim Gamard
[http://www.dar-al-masnavi.org/index.html]
----- Original Message -----
From: Siska
To: K-list ; Paul Perner
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] new agers
Yeah I'm guilty of 'new age bashing' too...
Paul wrote:
> A lot of the backlash comes from seeing all these ads
> in the spirituality magazines for Light this and Light that...
It reminds me of the long years I spent trying to find way of connecting
with Christianity yet I just couldn't get past fundamentalists and
charasmatics, so I ended up tarring the whole religion with the same brush.
It was years before I discovered there are actually Christians who interpret
in the spirit rather than the letter of the law.
It just hurts me that my deepest and most cherished spiritual values are
those which I know others are also trying to reach - but they too find it
hard to get past the 'flack' (in this case 'new age') if I dare refer to it
as that.
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