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Recieved: 2001/12/28 16:56
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: bumps in the night
From: Marsha
On 2001/12/28 16:56, Marsha posted thus to the K-list:
Joe -
Thank you for your strong concern for my young niece. Despite the ridicule,
and loneliness, her mother (my wonderful sister) has gifted this child,
through their relationship and unconditional acceptance and love, with a
certain forthrightness, honesty, and self-acceptance that is beyond her
years. So I believe that, with good guidance (which is why I brought this
to the K-list), she will be fine.
Speaking of guidance, Joe, perhaps her mom could keep her antennae out for a
teacher for her daughter. This seems to have worked well for you, in the
realms in which you travel. Maybe not all of us need a guru, but at her
age, with whatever her abilities are, maybe someone around who is more
experienced and able to judge her "readiness," as you put it would be a good
safety valve. How do you look for someone like that?
Can you say what the benefits of invisibility are? I mean the 'high'
benefits?
I hear your caution about dabbling in magic - especially at such a young
age. I have no opinion as I've never tried magic myself - at least in the
sense of magical spells. I'd be more apt to advise her that love is true
magic. However, I'll pass this on to her mother with strength.
I've ordered the book you mentioned and will see how the 'Solar Cross'
feels...if it feels right, I'll copy this part of the book for her. I may
need to contact you later about this, so thanks for the offer.
Again, thanks for the response.
Blessings,
Marsha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: <K-list >
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:09 PM
Subject: [K-list] Re: bumps in the night
> Marsha,
>
> >(my niece ) and a friend of hers (eighth graders) are both seeing what
she
> >calls ghosts...a friend who died, one of their grandfathers who also
died,
> >a cat who died, and others who they don't know. Two questions : the
girls
> >want to communicate, but don't know how, and my niece is hearing pans
> >rattling and things being moved etc. in her house (and is a little
afraid)
> >and wants to do something about it. She lives with her dad who is
> >oblivious and not at all open to things like that, but her mom, who sees
> >her on weekends and with whom she has a wonderful relationship, has
bought
> >a book on spells. The girls are both different physically (they are
quite
> >large), in attitude and ourlook and so forth, from their peers and often
> >suffer ridicule, loneliness, and non-compatibility from and with their
> >peers.
> >
> >I told her to surround herself with white light and ask for protection,
and
> >never to impinge on the free will of anyone, but ghosts are not in my
line
> >of experience and I don't want to tell her something that isn't so.
> >
> >Could I get some feedback for her from the list? I told her that I'd ask
> >and that I'd forward any answers that were helpful.
>
> It could be a psychological thing, a cry for attention, and not real. For
> that you'd need a couselor or someone better qualified than me in that
type
> of problem. I'm assuming here that all of it actually happened as she
> reported it to you.
>
> The very last thing she needs at this point is a book on spells. She's a
> kid, probably doesn't want to think she is but she is. This sort of thing
is
> over the head of 99.999999% or adults, don't even expect a kid to be able
to
> go there and be OK. To invite it to become more, as spells will, is crazy,
> spelled CRAZY!!! (Sorry I can't change the type size here to get it big
> enough.) Anyone doing spells around her or in a place she will later be
will
> invite attention to themselves and to her.
>
> Longer term she should be able to develop and use what caused her to be
able
> to see these things to grow spiritually but for now she needs to be
> protected.
>
> She is seeing the ghosts and wanting to communicate with them. If she is
> seeing them, they are seeing her. Not only that but bad things out there
are
> able to see her too. And any who doesn't believe bad things are out there
> hasn't been out there! That is why she needs protection. Protection will
> make it difficult/impossible for the bad things to see her. But short of
> significant spiritual growth she won't be able to get away from the things
> that are scaring her, and should be scaring her, and still contact the
dead
> friend.
>
> As a quick solution go buy a book called "Modern Magic" (may be spelled
> "Magik" or "Magick") by Kraig (Michael or maybe two first names). There is
a
> practice in it, I think he calls it "The Solar Cross" or some such. It is
> surrounding yourself with a sphere you draw and mark with crosses at the
> points of intersection of the three belts that define the sphere. You
should
> be able to find it from that. (Sorry for lack of specifics, I'm at work
and
> my book is in a stack of books at home.) She should do this practice a
lot,
> at a minimum every AM and PM, noon if possible. And not phone it in! She
> should focus deeply with the intent of putting a sphere of protection
around
> her. [As for the rest of the book's contents I wouldn't do it anytime she
> might be around or coming there soon. If you do anything else you should
do
> the LBRP (lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram) a few times before she
> comes to visit or before you go visit her.]
>
> Doing the practice I mentioned will help hide her from the bad (and good)
> guys out there. It will also get her called on less in class. And it may
> mean she won't be noticed by some of the cool crowd (or whatever they call
> them now). It hides you, very simply that is the purpose of it. I know
> people who've used it before a long trip to avoid speeding tickets.
Trouble
> is other drivers over look them too. None of them use it any more before
> driving.
>
> Other than that, get her doing a few simple things, alternate nostral
> breathing for 5 or 10 minutes and then simply watching her breath or
> whatever meditation she's up to doing (there is a lot of variation in the
> level of 8th graders). This will help calm her (spirit/energy beings can
be
> attracted to emotions very easily, particularly "bad" ones like fear,
guilt,
> etc.) and also develop her inner self so she'll be ready to deal with
things
> like this at some future date. I can't stress enough she's not ready now,
no
> matter what she or anyone else thinks.
>
> Rereading this I came on awfully strong. My background is studying and
> working for 15 years with a Kundalini master, some of that time in India,
he
> now comes here for the summers so I study here. I've also been trained in
> shamanism for the last few years and have to walk out there where things
go
> bump in the night as a part of my training. I'm not bragging in telling
you
> this, I'm just concerned about your niece and need you to believe I'm not
a
> nut or making this up to scare you.
>
> Feel free to contact me off list if you wish.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Joe
>
>
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