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Recieved: 2001/12/17 17:12
Subject: [K-list] Re: what to do when you cannot ignore it?
From: aster MP


On 2001/12/17 17:12, aster MP posted thus to the K-list:

   Date: 17 Dec 2001 12:58:44 -0500
   From: "Butler, Maura <NHTSA>"
<maura.butlerATnospamnhtsa.dot.gov>
Subject: What to do when you cannot ignore it?

Hi..
*snip*
The vast majority of these experiences were dreadful
and filled with
terror -
like repeatedly being raped by astral entities. (If
you are not sure
how a phy
sical person can be raped by an astral entity, just
take my word for it
for now.)
*snip*

I had the same terrifying experiences when my psychic
abilities opened up. I don't believe I was K awakened
then..but now when I look back I'm not sure.

I too had just started on a spiritual path and had
been meditating regularly. I've been a bit psychic
all my life and once I started seriously studying,
meditating and attending spriritual groups etc..every
thing opened quickly and suddenly. It even amazed
some of the people who were teaching me..it puzzled
them.

*snip*
So now I am stuck trying to understand if the astral
is really just a
manifest
ation of my mind, or if it has a reality of its own or
not, and in
either case
 - how to deal with it if it pops up again.
*snip*

I also had the same questions. At the time I believed
it was astral, they were dark energies attacking me
and wanted my soul. Besides the raping there was a
feeling they were pulling my astral body from my
physical. The only way to stop it was to stay awake,
this caused many health and mental problems.

There were also physical manifestations...ornamants
floating in the air and then smashing to the gound. I
would wake up and my whole bed would be shaking and
banging off the ground.....like a scene from a horror
movie It was terrifying...words don't describe the
fear..and the grating of the negativity on the nerves
and the physical body.

Now, years later and a lot more education in spiritual
practices...I believe 'maybe' they were my fears
manifesting astral beings and physical phenomenon.

*snip*
I am also afraid to resume
my spir
itual practices (meditation), which seem to have set
the whole thing
off. Does anyone have any relevant experience,
insight, etc?
Thank you.
*snip*

I understand how you feel. I didn't give up my
spiritual studies..it spured me on even more to find
out what was happening, why and what to do about it.

Unfortuneatly I couldn't find any advice at the time
so I stumbled along on my own. All I did was
continuously protecting myself, clearing my house and
myself with white light and love. I used crystals,
amulets, music, magic and holy symbols..anything.. *s*
didn't matter what religion or belief system...I did
the lot..just in case *s*

I had the basic belief that we have to face our fears
and this was somehow manifested from my
subconscious...so I was determined to face whatever it
was.

I learnt a strong powerful lesson about fear. To face
whatever it was, without any fear and only
unconditional love was very very difficult. Every
time I thought I'd done it it would re-appear...I
would find inside of myself a hesitancy or a doubt.

One night sitting in meditation I finally did it...and
I saw what negative beings, entities etc really are.
I saw them as misguided and lost souls....they needed
love and guidence to find their way again....and many
other things that take to much to go into here.

Everything stopped and very rarly does it happen. It
only apears now when I'm called to help someone. I
believe still that its a manifestation of our
fear....but I'm still not 100% about it all.

I know it happened to make me stronger, to learn from
the experience in every aspect and the depth of living
through it...its always a better way to learn than
only studying it.

Your destiny might be to teach and help others, this
is why sometimes the lessons are so hard.....you can
only help from your own experiences..and this gives
you empathy and compassion..from the heart....not
preaching from a book you've read or second hand from
someone else's experience.

Be strong, find the love inside yourself to love all
and everything that happend, unconditionaly and
totally without fear. Call on whatever
universal/religious/spiritual belief you have....ask
for help from above and it will come...they are always
listening....trust me, they are there..

I hope I've been of some help, if only to say I know
what you're going through, I understand..and you're
not alone. You're welcome to email me privatly if you
want to talk further.

with love

aster(MP)


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