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Recieved: 2001/12/05 09:58
Subject: [K-list] Re: kundalini?
From: Nick Sandberg
On 2001/12/05 09:58, Nick Sandberg posted thus to the K-list:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cosmic Energy" <cosmicbeamATnospamvsnl.com>
To: "Nick Sandberg" <nick.sandbergATnospambtinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:53 PM
Subject: kundalini?
Dear Nick,
Your experience is very interesting and thought provoking.
When find time please elaborate the words/ sentences in
blue in your letter and the following.
Do you feel that your health is alright or say normal ?
Hi CB,
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty normal. I get the odd cold for a few days going
into winter, otherwise I'm pretty OK.
Is there any way to find out that K is fully/partially awakened ?
I don't know. How do you assess these things?
In your opinion is there any difference in Hindu way of
understanding K and others?
Well, the Hindus Recognize kundalini. The point I was loosely trying to make
was that you don't Actually have to do this. You don't actually need to
create a kundalini paradigm. The psychological effect of kundalini awakening
seems to be to brings all one's stuff to the surface. You can process this
with regular Western therapy techniques. Or, you can use Eastern or subtle
body stuff. Frankly, if our society was generally more in touch with
emotions, there would be no need even for the word. People would just
experience it and float on.
With regards,
Cosmic Beam
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From: Nick Sandberg <nick.sandbergATnospambtinternet.com>
Sent: Dec 05, 2001
Subject: kundalini?
> I'm only an occasional visitor to this fascinating group, but I thought
I'd
> share a bit of my own personal k experience, as I found a rather different
> way of looking at it than from the traditional Hindu perspective.
Well, I checked out all the Hindu stuff and it helped me, in that it gave me
a box I could put a scary experience into. Later I realized that, for me
personally, the Hindu way of forwarding the experience just didn't really
suit me.
>
> I had a pretty full-on k awakening in Thailand
Well, what actually happened was that I didn't sleep more than a half hour a
night for about 3 and a half weeks, then, when I was in a total state of
chaos one night I took a single drag from a joint and had an explosion
inside my head like a fireball hitting it. I felt my body light up like a
torch with like molten energy just flowing through channels all over. It
went on for a good ten hours and my mind was totally immersed in full-on
sexual thoughts throughout. This repeated in lesser level for the next few
nights. Then it stopped and I just forgot about it for a few years. I wrote
something about it once which is up at www.nick2211.yage.net/kundalini.htm
in '94 which went away,
> unrecognized, for a number of years then kind of progressively re-asserted
> itself in my life.
>
> I read all the regular books once I'd realized, through a series of chance
> meetings, that I was probably experiencing the effects of kundalini -
> Sannella, White, Gopi Krishna, Woodroffe
They're just regular kundalini writers.
- and tried meditation and hanging
> around ashrams. It was very interesting stuff - learning about
enlightenment
> and devotion - but it didn't seem to really make my daily life any easier.
> One real problem I had was that my ego loved all the stuff that was going
on
> with me - I was experiencing major internal energy shifts and mini
> explosions of light in my head, not to mention psychic channels being
> switched on like radio stations - but all this stuff just sent me more and
> more into my head.
>
> I had a lot of "issues" from childhood (I was separated from my mother
> shortly after I was born) and the effect of my so-called kundalini
> experience seemed to be to bring all this stuff to the surface where it
just
> made my day-to-day life a hell. I eventually worked out that I just needed
> to do therapy where I could just work on my issues and forget about
kundalini.
>
> I started doing different therapies in London, from trad,
traditional
talking stuff to
> the more New Age colourpuncture and Tibetan pulsing. This seemed to have
> some effect but I still felt myself overly burdened by all the emotions I
> was repressing inside and the spiritual experience I seemed to be
undergoing
> was still merrily bringing stuff up en masse. After a fair bit of
searching
> I eventually came upon the approach I'm still with - a therapist training
> programme in Dorset, England.
the Humaniversity Therapist Training - a 4 year course run in the UK at Osho
Leela. www.humaniversity.nl and www.osholeela.co.uk
They do a lot of in-your-face group work, esp
> bioenergetics, encounter and primal.
>
> Things are going pretty well. I have good relationships with people. I
still
> get up to psychic stuff and can merrily spend hours in bed watching all
the
> fireworks and fractals whirling around my visual field, but I don't need
to
> focus on this stuff.
>
> Anyway, I'm posting all this just to point out that whilst the Hindu
> perspective is great, it's not the only one.
Well, there is another paradigm which uses K - it's in Qabalah and I do a
bit of writing about it occasionally as no one else much does and it's kind
of the direction I get psychic experiences from. But, this isn't what I
meant. I just meant it's only the SPEED of the awakening which leads one to
need a way of understanding it. The energy explodes out often because it's
been held down for a long time. If our culture were a bit more clued up as
to the importance of emotions and childhood etc, i'm sure the energy would
just spontaneously arise and be experienced like pure pleasure.
all the best
Nick
You don't actually need to say
> ' this person's having a kundalini experience' to help them move along,
> though for sure it can be reassuring to be able to put it in a box when
it's
> coming on and you're scared.
>
> Kundalini seems to just brings one's stuff to the surface, you can go at
it
> with meditation and subtle body stuff at a higher dimensional level or you
> can do it with encounter therapy and bioenergetics in good old 3D.
> Nick
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