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Recieved: 2001/11/09 17:21
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: DXM and misc. observations/remarks
From: Joshua Sutterfield
On 2001/11/09 17:21, Joshua Sutterfield posted thus to the K-list:
> I have enjoyed reading your post very much. I agree with practically all of
Thanks.. I'm very glad I've found a place where there are people who know
what I'm talking about.. it's difficult coming upon things like this in
private.. at first I thought nobody else had ever known what I knew, which
was quite a burden, but then my girlfriend soon saw what I saw, and we
found quite a few books and realized that other people knew the "big
secret" about who/what we are too. And then I found this group, yay.
> I have been writing and reflecting on one of the Ten Commandments because it
> offers a key to me as to how we are all One. The commandment that I am
> taking into consideration is: Thou shalt have no other God before me.
Yeah.. well, I think that could easily just be a trick of language.. God
didn't really say "me" in quotes, as in the concept me.. but was referring
to a specific me which was him, so easily we can still se it as separate.
But the thing is who is that specific me he is referring to. He says
specifically what he is, that he is the great "I AM". Very few
Bible-readers seem to grasp what that means, it just sounds to them like
God being all big and righteous and neato. But if he says he is I AM,
then he is the act of being oneself, he is self. Why would he have been
redundant in saying that he "is" something, and what he is, is the
self-referreing form of is. I guess somewhere in ther ehe also says "I am
that I am" which makes it even clearer... I am the fact that I am. or I
am I am I am I am... an eternity of self which refers to self and is aware
of self. The word self itself is a very very peculiar word, as even this
sentence itself suggests.
Anyways, so yeah, he is the whole concept, the whole experience, of
amming. Heheh. I mean.. it is quite backwards to think that we're
egotistical for thinking ourselves God. If we say otherwise we're taking
"credit" as somehow unique.. the very concept of self is owned by god.. is
the stuff out of which God is made.. he is to "credit" for the
process/experience of existence. I think I am repeating myself and just
re-saying what you said too.
Anyways, yeah, although the commandment doesn't necessarily say it, it
ought to.. even if it were said that way, it wouldn't have come through
the translation.. (God makes a note: be sure to put quotes around the me,
I mean the CONCEPT of me, I mean each person's "me").
I think one of the clearest ways I show myself that it must be me, is
when I consider the premise of God's omniscience/omnipresence. He must
know every part of my experience.. more than I do, he is the ultimate
reciever of all of it. I just process it, he is the one who is "aware"
of my processes. I mean (I work with AI) a computer can theoretically be
made to think, to model itself, to model its own thinking.. but when
does "something" recieve all this. When does it .. exist.. when does it
"am"? Well I recently decided it all am. Each of us only knows the
local one. And that doesnt mean things think obviously.. but they still
recieve.. if they are rocks they recieve nothingness I guess.. they dont
recieve two nothingnesses per each half a rock, nor 50million, one for
each molecule.. it is one, one awareness one experience, it has nothing
to distinguish it from this to that.
I didnt say what I wanted to say.. er, the clearest way to show myself
that I must be God, is well, when considering all this, well then, how
close is God to my center.. how close is he to what I am.. he is closer
than my brain is.. he is closer than my ideas and all that stuff about
me.. he is closer than that, closer than 'that', always has to be closer..
no matter what I am focusing on or considering, I can always say God is
closer to me than what it is I'm "concocting". God is everywhere present
so he must be infinitely close to anything. And how can I be anywhere or
experience being anywhere except that I am him. So yeah, just saying "it
is closer than that" suggests what god it is that I am not supposed to put
other gods before.. never a god in a bible, never any other concept.. what
is even distinct about them.. the only distinct point is my center.. all
other points are "other". All other gods are "other" gods. And I mean..
damn, there are just so many clues in the bible.. we're created in his
image, he is the perfect creator, well gee, then how close to the original
are we? perfectly, identically, he is only creating himself.. he creates
so perfectly that his product creates HIM, and they are one in the same.
The most peculiar thing I find about thinking about all this is.. yeah,
all I end up doing is repeating myself (and others who decided god=self)
in slightly different ways (how fitting since that's all God does), but
essentially saying the same simple truth over and over again. Each human
is the same truth over and over again, and it's so insanely simple there's
nothing to do but rejoice.
Josh
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