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Recieved: 2001/11/09 15:35
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: DXM and misc. observations/remarks
From: felix

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> Either we believe in God or we know God. Or do we? Who knows? Not me.
> But if we are to know God, we will have to come fully into the
> present moment where God is.
>
> To know God means we are existing in the world created by the
> thinking mind where exists the memories of the past and the fantasies
> of the future.
>
> To be God is to become aware of the present moment of now. How does
> one try to be God? By remembering or imagining what It is like? I
> don't know.
>
> When we are in our mind we are not being God.

Hi Susan,

Reading that part of your post above is a bit synchronisitic for me.
Recently I remembered a term I ran across in an unabridged dictionary :
specious present. This term is very revealing way of describing the eternal
now. I ran a search on it in Google ["specious + present"] and it turned up
a bunch of sites where various disiplines argue about the parameters of the
specious present, in general, how much time is involved or can be involved
in between your "memories of the past" and the "fantasies of the future".

I read one site where this highly educated Methodist minister stated that
God only ex-is-ts in the specious present, which led to an argument on
another list I'm on about whether God is so caught up in creating and
decision-making in that specious present that It is ignorant of everything
but that.

Ordinarily, the present moment is the only ti-me anybody can do anything
about being in the world. In some of the tantric techniques I have been
reading about in the archives, it seems as though tantric results can only
be achieved by letting go of the future and the past and dwelling in that
eternal now with one's lover. It might appear that applies to either a
spiritual or physical lover.

Certainly it seems that to be One with God would require that one give up
reflecting on the memories of the past and the fantasies of the future just
to dwell in the same state as God exists in. If the concentration were
perfectly aligned such that one was with God in the specious present, the
question then might be whether one could participate with God as God, as for
as long as this could take place, experience the ecstasy of Godliness for as
long as one could be there without remembering the past or fantasizing about
the future. Once that happened, one might fall from grace, and to be sure,
regret not being in God's presence mightily. LOL!!

What would an experience of this sort do to the ordinary expression of the
libido? Getting off for twenty or thirty seconds might pale in comparison,
and seemingly one could never go home again to a more mundane sexual
activity without thinking the whole time that it was less than what is
possible. It could be incentive to tear your mortal lover's flesh... could
it not? ;-)

felix

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