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Recieved: 2001/11/01 12:03
Subject: Re: [K-list] Fw: Fw: Tantra Course Notes
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/11/01 12:03, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
I was not going to send this, but after waking to your latest B*tchy
post, I might as well...
At 09:47 AM 31/10/01, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: L. J. Klinsky
>To: MystressATnospamkundalini-gateway.org
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Fw: Tantra Course Notes
>Apparently you didn't read my second post, the one where I offered a very
>hefty energy exchange not in the form of money, but in the form of
>services, for your gifts. Just because I don't believe in money as a good
>form of energy exchange for me, doesn't mean I'm a bad person.
I read your second post after I wrote that one. I thought your second
post was a response to it. Are you a crazy woman? Why are you coming back
to this, now?
>I think you are a wonderfully wise human and I've respected all of what
>you've said up to now. However, I don't appreciate you wanting to "weed
>out people like me who are too deep in scarcity consciousness to be
>motivated to give something back for what they get."
I spoke, what was in my heart. You knew the post would provoke me, you
said as much. I restrained myself in my response, but frankly, after
getting the first copy of this anger bomb you sent me last night, I had to
quit working and go to bed. What will you pay me, to help you get past your
scarcity issues, and will it be worth putting up with the anger bombs you
send me as you work out your stuff?
Ya know, part of the purpose of the "computer bubble" spell is to give
students practice in becoming aware that the energy they send out can
affect their physical reality... so they can learn to be mindful and
modulate it.
The same gifts that allow me to write the way I do, also give me a
sensitivity that can diagnose someone's karma from the other side of the
planet. So, what do you think it is like to be bombed with someone's
emotions like you are doing?
Ya know, part of the purpose of the "computer bubble" spell is to give
students practice in becoming aware that the energy they send out can and
does affect this gross horrible physical reality where you seem to think
spiritual energy cannot exist.
There is no separation. Goddess is All, so Goddess is in money, too. By
continuing to insist that there is a separation, you create more separation
in yourself. You try to be "different", and separate yourself, from the
world.. then you complain you are lonely??
Your issues are not coming up to be defended and clung to, they are
coming up, to be surrendered. Many of the wise on this list have spoken up
to tell you that your issues are not workable... and gently, because you
have so much unreleased emotion around it, you are likely to explode at
anyone.
>On this, my dear lady, you are sadly mistaken. Words can hurt others
>really badly, and I don't think this was your intent,
and what is your intent, with this post?
>but it was so. If you would put your heart out to my heart you would see
>that I want more than anything to give back for what I got from you. I
>said I was out of work in my last post, and I am trying to grow through my
>money issues, hoping for help.
What makes you think what is occurring, is not help?
> My feelings are as valid as anyone elses,
ah... that would include my feelings, I assume?
>and for the first time in my life I'm feeling like I deserve respect.
ROTFLOL!! If that feeling is a side effect of my expression, then why
do you not thank me instead of flaming me?
> I'm sure you wouldn't want to quash my need to feel good about myself,
> as it's been taking a lifetime to gain a spark of that. I feel very
> ungrounded suddenly but in a feeble way I will try to express my self.
>
>I don't appreciate you saying that I "really think [your] gifts, time and
>attention [are] worthless."
What do you not appreciate about it?
>Perhaps you have something to learn this time around.
LOL!
>I know I have an infinite amount of learning to do, but my intentions are
>pure and loving.
and your shadow? what does it look like?
> I sense a projection here.
Whose?
>I also sense your pain, the pain of your past of giving too much and
>getting little or nothing in return.
Very good. I see you are being very considerate of that...?
> I am sorry I sparked a nasty opening and that I hurt you; that was not
> my intent either.
Then why were you afraid to write about it?
> How could I possibly know what you've been through with that issue.
It says as much, on the same page as where the price of the course is.
Why don't you go back and read the page, the quotes on money, and the
short essay on paying for spiritual teachings? Or did you skip over all
that and go straight to the price so you would have something to complain
about?
>I wish I had of, but apparently, again, this exchange was meant to be for
>some reason.
Well, you are working through your scarcity consciousness issues, and
your unconscious and conscious mind see me as a teacher. So, your stuff is
coming up and you are projecting it at me. No big surprise, really.
I already know about my stuff. I laid it out. You chose to take it
personally, despite my disclaimer in several places that I was speaking of
me, my perceptions, my experiences. You chose to take it personally so you
could aim a whole lot of the anger crap you need to release around this
issue, at me.
Who is projecting?
> Words are horrible ways to communicate sometimes; you've said this in
> your lessons as well. I wish you only good, and you may still take me up
> on the offer I made in the second post if you'd like.
Good. Can you install the search engine you sent me onto the site of
the list archives? It is a unix server. I will send you the rest of the
info in private mail.
> (I sense that, after reading your lesson on selfless service, that
> you'll find something else wrong with me. Oh, growing is a lonely one
> sometimes...)
Good.. you read that lesson. Then go looking for your shadow, and what
it has to say about the motives behind your insistence on barter, and your
attitude that money is evil. Go looking too, at the passive aggressive
martyrdom in the last two lines of your post. Very dramatic, don't you think?
Blessings...
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