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Recieved: 2001/10/26 15:22
Subject: RE: [K-list] Art vs Sean
From: rich
On 2001/10/26 15:22, rich posted thus to the K-list:
There is no right or wrong, good or bad, merely difference in opinion
(judgements). Our judgements are often ego-centric. When we judge
something we are also judging ourself. Remember we don't see things as
they are, we see things as we are. It is our judgements that separate us
from things. Words and thoughts are secondary to feeling and knowing.
When one does not judge they are able to fully appreciate things. To me
this is pure spirit - a world of fullness and atonement.
It's not easy to live a life non-judgementally. Sooner or later some
stimulus will bring you back into the world of thought and judgement
again.
Living intuitively is such a pleasure - substaining it is the challenge.
The difference is mind and no-mind.
Ultimately it is your attachments as much as your fears (resistances)
that need to be handled. Most people focus on their resistances. The
real reward comes from when you give up your pleasures also to leave a
you which is unburdened of grasping. Actually your fears (resitances)
are also attachments but it can be hard to see it like this early on.
It's funny that in some Buddhist fellowships it is regarded as a good
trait to not think too much. Many Buddhists believe that nearly all
mental illness is a result of excessive thinking. Our world values one's
intellectual ability so greatly that it's very difficuly to unwind from
our programming and brainwashing to see things at they really are and
not be caught up in our mental faculties so much. The mind is a filter
on our full perception.
Best,
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: unit1021ATnospamhotmail.com [mailto:unit1021ATnospamhotmail.com]
> Sent: 26 October 2001 19:09
> To: K-list
> Subject: [K-list] Art vs Sean
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> Hey all,
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> Two pieces of music. One is bad, the other is good. I know
> this. How? I just do. I understand the feelings involved. I
> can listen to Mozart and tell you exactly when and where the
> trumpets played too loudly and for how long. Or when somone
> doesnt hold down a key long enough when playing Bach. I can
> tell when any type of musician starts playing ego and not
> heart exactly when it happens. I just know. I feel it. I do
> judge it. Without judgement there is no good nor bad music.
> This is art. Or, this is what makes really good art.
> Recognising that it could be better. Thus judgeing it.
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> I dont mean evil, or good.. just correct and incorrect.
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> If you cant say.. "This is horrable!"
> Then you cant say.."this is beautiful!"
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> If you say to yourself that you will only judge beautifull
> things. Then you really cant.
>
> Judgeing is good. Would it be true to say that just dont
> judge people and places?
>
> Without anything judged. There is nothing. With nothing
> there is no art. No soul. Art is there to MAKE you feel
> something inside of you. Awake that spirit. If you deaden
> that, then you are missing out on everything.
>
>
> So if there is good and bad music(emotions). Not percieved,
> but composed and played. There can be both good and bad
> people(emotions). Has anyone ever wanted to shield
> themselves against somone that feels good? A judgement. That
> person is good. If that person is good, then another must be
> bad. And you shouldnt hang around them. Because they are bad
> people in there own composition. If you say all music is
> good. Thats not the truth. Its not. I know it. I listen to
> all forms of emotion too, cant catch me there.. From the
> deepest black metal to the lightest and most open Mozart and
> everything in between. Its all good to me... if its played
> correctly and with heart. I will know it.
>
>
> I'm just worried that by going non judgemental I will toss
> the good out with the bad... You HAVE to be judgemental to
> do art. Otherwise you just get trash.
>
> I hate those punks that start out Mozarts Reqium too
> fast!!!! It supposed to go SLOWLY DAMNIT! And the Confutatis
> is FASTER!!! I know there ego is in that... Morons! Heh,
> you should see me when I drive.. If I hear them screwing
> with a piece I start yelling and screaming and cursing and
> banging things around. haha... I cant wait till I get out
> there and make it right again. Yes, I can make it right.
> Will anyone notice? Probably not.. But at least I will..
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> I think a lot. Sometimes too much... I'm confused...
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> Goodbye
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> Sean
>
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