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Recieved: 2001/10/06 07:45
Subject: [K-list] Re: The Inexpressible Grief of the New Born ..- Susan ..
From: Divine Goddess

Erf....Christopher....you still haven't told me why you need to do
this...to speak in such a way.

Sufferring is always with us...it always will be...and there will
always be people to point out how much sufferring there is in the
world...there always have been those to point that out.

There are far less people in the world who point out that joy and
peace are present and possible and attainable regardless of
circumstances of birth or environment.

I have lived in a lot of places, been in a lot of situations. Those
who have known me for years on this list know what kind of painful
background I have come from.

It is not necessary for me to dredge up and compare misery histories
with you to prove who has suffered more on this planet to give
credibility to what I say and prove that I am compassionate.

There is a dear one on this list who was born a "half breed" who
adores his stable and loving parents and they adore him.

There are enough former drug addicts here who come from balanced and
unbalanced homes on this list to tell you hope is not a dream.

I had my 'feral' days too as a child.

I was a christian fundamentalist (starting as a 12 year old by no
influence of my parents but my own choice) but I grew out of it with
the gentle loving nudge of kundalini ascent.

As far as the rest of your points, it seems you want to motivate me
by guilt that I have something wonderful and how can I be grateful
and happy in the midst of such sufferring? Well, your posts sound an
awful lot like those ads that showed big eyed children in third world
countries so I will give money to make their lives better.
Manipulation by guilt is such an old con. It must be your christian
dna making you speak so.

You know, Christopher, I can't fix the world's problems and neither
can you. It is my spirituality that keeps me alive and gives me hope
in this brave, new world.

What I know is spirituality is not compartmentalized for me. It just
is what it is. It is my life. There is no compartment for economics
or politics, one for psychology, another for emotional, and another
for physical and one for spirit. They are all blended into one and
what happens in each area of my life is a reflection of the amount of
joy and peace that lives in my heart.

If joy and peace were dependent upon external circumstances then
maybe you would have a point. But it is not, that's what makes being
alive and courageous and loving and peaceful so outrageously divine.
It is easy to suffer and then complain and fight about it. It takes
discipline to be peaceful.

I don't have to tell people anything. I do not have to search out the
less unfortunate and explain or rationalize my position of happiness
and peace. Do you feel driven by a need to explain why you are
blessed to the less fortunate? Or maybe you don't feel you are
blessed.

If people want to know why I am different, I will tell them but I
feel no drive to look for the world's unfortunate...I have plenty of
them right here on my own city's streets...and apologize to them for
finding happiness. Heh...they would laugh at me and demand that I
give them a quarter and spit at me if I don't.

Telling people about peace and joy is a rather useless exercise
unless there bellies are full and they feel safe; missionaries have
known that for years. So rather than feel apologetic about my
happiness in spirit, as it seems you want me to feel (I could be
wrong but manipulation by guilt for feeling good seems to be a big
theme in your dogma), I can put feet to my heart and volunteer in
service.

I never said my society or any society was joyous. I don't think
there any that exist,yet. Joy comes from within, the heart.

Sometimes I think, Christopher, that you are a victim of your own
sufferring which you cannot see because you are so involved in
pointing out how others suffer and researching why. I wonder what
kind of window that you look through to view your world.

I could be wrong.

Peaceful blessings to you,
Susan

   
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., lifestreamsATnospamb... wrote:
> Try telling this to the children born as half breeds -
> the children born of mixed racial marriages
> the children brought up in the parental conflict of mixed
religion
> the children who are taken from their native mother
> by the society you call joyous ..
>

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