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Recieved: 2001/09/17 03:59
Subject: [K-list] Has any leader, ever said ...
From: Jb789
On 2001/09/17 03:59, Jb789 posted thus to the K-list:
They all talk about 'peaceful co-existence' and no more war,
and 'love thy neighbor' and destroy the evil.
But has any political/religious leader, ever said :
Do you want to stop all wars ?.. Then :
-throw away your flags
-remove your religious robes
-place all your 'holy books' in the garbage
-strip yourself af idealogical brainwashing & venom
-exorcise your beliefs
-look for evil in yourself
-'I' is the destructive factor. Understand and go beyond.
-see your identification with your political party, ideology, that
though pleasing and security feeding, is food for division and war
-see that 'tolerance' for the other 'tribe' is a civilized form of
temporary peace
-do not say 'the Other started !'. See that You start it, and the
start is every moment of your personal life.
-stop putting belief before Life
-see your religiosity/nationalism/racial as destructive
identification, and arbitrary Fantasy repeated and reinforced by the
millions of your tribe,
untill it looks real, giving a pleasurable adrenalin stimulation,..
and death.. of you, of your children.
-see and declare your religious/nationalistic membership as useless
and absolete. An old, but worthless game.
-Shed the garb of your 'ism' and your ID of belonging.
-You can stop all wars. There is plenty of space and food on this
earth for all of us. It is available, in peace, only if you give up
your fictitious I-dentity and craving for power.
Has any leader ever said that ?
There are those few, no-establishment people, who did say that..
but Who listens ?
I've seen a group of Hindu gurus and swamis, who travel around the
world talking of 'the world being one family', and peace... they had
their orange-robes, long beards, gold watches, cell-phones. On the
stage, a Hindu shrine, with pictures of Kirshna and Ganesh(the
elephant God).. and they were complimenting the rich supporters
(sitting in the front row, I was asked to move away.. the rich ones
were coming) for their titles as 'man of the year',.. HH. Shree X-ji
who started with 1 dollar and now has the largest steel factory in
the world, and Shree Shree Shree (yes 3 times) Swami-ji lifted his
fist in the air, encouraging the audience to join/support their peace
movement..
3xShree, said that once someone addressed to him as 'Mr.'. He said
that he replied: 'Sir, I am Not a Mr,. I am a Holy Man !!'...(at
which point he raised his voice)...
When time for shouting mantras of respect came, he shouted something
like 'Jay Jagad Shankaracharia Guru Dev !'.. he asked the audience to
reply : 'Jay !' (which I understand to mean 'Hail to..'). Since the
first Jay was rather feeble, he asked the audience to raise their
voices, so that the vibration would spread in the Universe..
He still did not seem quite pleased after the second 'Jay', but he
probably found wise not to be critical or demanding, again.
He also informed us, that his group, was accepting both, Satya Sai
Baba (no mention of the dark stories about him) and Sai Baba of
Shridi, another saint. Now, it is so that, the disciples of SSB do
not recognize and oppose the SBoS group, and viceversa. While 3xShree
group, accept both in the world-family...
(At one point, the fire-alarm started to ring.. fear spread thru the
hall,.. after all Muslims do not befriend Hindus .. to our relief, it
was a false alarm..)
.. 'Holiness' ?, 'Peace' ? 'One family' ?
According to an abduction story, the human asked the ufo-naut 'Why is
it, that you never, officially contact humanity and relate openly to
us ?'
The ufo-naut replied :'because human consciousness, is still at the
level of the savage'.
The story might not be true,
the 'savage' part, obviously is.
jb
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