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Recieved: 2001/09/13 10:32
Subject: [K-list] Interesting perspective, and Cent. VI.-97.
From: Tony O'Clery


On 2001/09/13 10:32, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:

Namaste All, here is your moderated one.

My daughter spent the other night consoling a girl here in Vancouver
whose friend was on one of the hijacked flights, he was a sports
scout.

Her reaction was sadness, no blame of anybody or the noise we have
witnessed from vicarious attainers on TV. I was born in bombing and
grew up on bombsites as playground perhaps my perspective is
different. It is really 'Welcome to my World', to the USA.

Check Nostradamus VI-97 also.

> September 11 Was a Day of Sadness, Anger and Fear
> Copyright: http://www.iviews.com
> Published Wednesday September 12, 2001
>
> By Robert Jensen
> Robert Jensen is a professor of journalism at the University of
Texas.

> Like everyone in the United States and around the world, I shared
the
> deep sadness at the deaths of thousands.
>
> But as I listened to people around me talk, I realized the anger and
> fear I felt were very different, for my primary anger is directed at
> the leaders of this country and my fear is not only for the safety
of
> Americans but for innocents civilians in other countries. It should
> need not be said, but I will say it: The acts of terrorism that
killed
> civilians in New York and Washington were reprehensible and
> indefensible; to try to defend them would be to abandon one's
> humanity. No matter what the motivation of the attackers, the method
> is beyond discussion.
>
> But this act was no more despicable as the massive acts of terrorism
> -- the deliberate killing of civilians for political purposes --
that
> the U.S. government has committed during my lifetime. For more than
> five decades throughout the Third World, the United States has
> deliberately targeted civilians or engaged in violence so
> indiscriminate that there is no other way to understand it except as
> terrorism. And it has supported similar acts of terrorism by client
> states.
>
> If that statement seems outrageous, ask the people of Vietnam. Or
> Cambodia and Laos. Or Indonesia and East Timor. Or Chile. Or Central
> America. Or Iraq, or Palestine. The list of countries and peoples
who
> have felt the violence of this country is long. Vietnamese civilians
> bombed by the United States. Timorese civilians killed by a U.S.
ally
> with U.S.-supplied weapons. Nicaraguan civilians killed by a U.S.
> proxy army of terrorists. Iraqi civilians killed by the deliberate
> bombing of an entire country's infrastructure.
>
> So, my anger on this day is directed not only at individuals who
> engineered the Sept. 11 tragedy but at those who have held power in
> the United States and have engineered attacks on civilians every bit
> as tragic. That anger is compounded by hypocritical U.S. officials'
> talk of their commitment to higher ideals, as President Bush
> proclaimed "our resolve for justice and peace."
>
> To the president, I can only say: The stilled voices of the millions
> killed in Southeast Asia, in Central America, in the Middle East as
a
> direct result of U.S. policy are the evidence of our resolve for
> justice and peace. Though that anger stayed with me off and on all
> day, it quickly gave way to fear, but not the fear of "where will
the
> terrorists strike next," which I heard voiced all around me.
Instead,
> I almost immediately had to face the question: "When will the United
> States, without regard for civilian casualties, retaliate?" I wish
the
> question were, "Will the United States retaliate?" But if history is
a
> guide, it is a question only of when and where.
>
> So, the question is which civilians will be unlucky enough to be in
> the way of the U.S. bombs and missiles that might be unleashed. The
> last time the U.S. responded to terrorism, the attack on its
embassies
> in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, it was innocents in the Sudan and
> Afghanistan who were in the way. We were told that time around they
> hit only military targets, though the target in the Sudan turned out
> to be a pharmaceutical factory.
>
> As I monitored television during the day, the talk of retaliation
was
> in the air; in the voices of some of the national-security "experts"
> there was a hunger for retaliation. Even the journalists couldn't
> resist; speculating on a military strike that might come, Peter
> Jennings of ABC News said that "the response is going to have to be
> massive" if it is to be effective.
>
> Let us not forget that a "massive response" will kill people, and if
> the pattern of past U.S. actions holds, it will kill innocents.
> Innocent people, just like the ones in the towers in New York and
the
> ones on the airplanes that were hijacked. To borrow from President
> Bush, "mother and fathers, friends and neighbors" will surely die in
a
> massive response.
>
> If we are truly going to claim to be decent people, our tears must
> flow not only for those of our own country. People are people, and
> grief that is limited to those within a specific political boundary
> denies the humanity of others.
>
> And if we are to be decent people, we all must demand of our
> government -- the government that a great man of peace, Martin
Luther
> King Jr., once described as "the greatest purveyor of violence in
the
> world" -- that the insanity stop here.

The most sensible post on the matter I've read so far.


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