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Recieved: 2001/09/01 12:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] friend having kundalini awakening
From: mgb
On 2001/09/01 12:55, mgb posted thus to the K-list:
Sat Nam,
I would just like to say that I know what it feels like
when you are trying to help someone and they are either too
"defensive" or in the case of my friend too proud to listen
to anything. However, Intuition has whispered that it's
not my place to help people in that way, I will get drained
and I do. I think this is one of the hardest things, when
one is trying to help a friend that is so negative, I mean
so much that intellectually they interpret life as negative
so their Egos are "solid" you could say, and what hurts is
that they dont realize the self-destruction that will hit
them sooner or later, i've been there. Anyway, my inner
voice has told me it's not up to me, friendships are
important, but the principal relationship is the one
between oneself and the Soul. And when we have friends
that are too self-centered, proud, defensive, egotistical,
whatever, there's not much we can do but love them for who
they are and be there for them (like you said) through the
pain, after all it's during the painful times when
self-transformation begins. In a general perspective, we
must learn to give everyone on Earth their time and space
to find out for themselves the path of spiritual awareness,
i dont think it's up to us to fill them in on it. And if
we already are on that path, our mission is to receive the
power of the Soul and see for ourselves that Love can
change anything, here we've all seen this reality. A
friend may not understand and may reject our intellectual
help, but deep inside they never reject our love. I dont
have much tolerance for people, beginning with myself, but
once I tuned into awareness these are the things I've
finally let myself learn. Dont mean to get so personal but
I think all these situations are surface reflections of
what goes on inside of ourselves. How we treat a friend is
how we treat ourselves, if we really treat ourselves with
Love than there should be nothing for us to worry about,
there will come a time when we're happy with the world as
it is because we will realize that all of us have different
times (lives) for self-evolution and the world today is
still at an adolescent stage so to speak. There is more
ignorance than awareness. But it's ok, let the world
mature at its own pace, let our friends grow at their own
pace. After all, our destiny is the Soul!...it's only a
matter of time before we get there. Just wanted to share a
few words from the spirit.
Love, light, peace
Maria.
--- ditteauATnospamyahoo.com wrote:
> hello everyone.I'd like to ask for some advice or
> thoughts on my
> friend having an awakening.I believe this is happening to
> him from
> all the symptoms and things happening in his life.While I
> cant be
> sure,and I know he has his own path,I would like to help
> him through
> this the best way I can,even if that is to do nothing.I
> had my
> awakening almost 4 years ago,and it was different from
> his,although
> it comes from the same source.He is a very impressionable
>
> person...and so i dont want to hinder his path.But alot
> of times i
> see him being impressioned by others thoughts on his
> spirituality,and
> I dont want to alienate him by saying they are
> "wrong"...furthermore
> I dont know if they are wrong,as this is his life and
> path,and maybe
> this is his learning,and I should stay out of it.I do
> feel we were
> brought together for a spiritual purpose or in a
> spiritual way...so
> Im just not sure as how to handle this.I do think my
> first priority
> with our friendship is just to be there for him...which I
>
> fulfill...but it does become hard to handle with the ups
> and downs
> and confusion he feels most times..i can relate to the
> feelings he
> has,and I do feel I have "been there"...so you can see
> that causes me
> to be confused as to whether I am to just observe and be
> a friend
> uninvolved to an extent..or to tell him the wisdom I have
> gained
> after going through these things...when I do express my
> opinion on
> others opinions about him he is very defensive...Im not
> sure why,i do
> feel that my expressions come from a place of love,and I
> express
> those to help him.I feel that maybe he has been
> manipulated so much
> in his life that he assumes I am trying to do that...I do
> not feel I
> am,and I feel my expressions come from a place of
> fellowship.
> Most of the times these other people who give their views
> on his
> spirituality,he is engrossed with what they say and takes
> it on as
> truth,as he feels they are wiser than him...and I sit
> back and feel I
> know that they are truly not helping him and say nothing
> or just
> express my OWN view on the subject...but as quick as he
> was totally
> engrossed in their truth about his situation,he just as
> quickly
> brushes them aside and their ideas...but in the inbetween
> time,it
> seems he conflicts with me...but once he brushes them
> aside we are
> back as before...with no conflict.
> I have never dealt with this,and am not sure how to
> handle it,and not
> sure exactly what is happening here...I have thought
> lately the best
> course of action is to tell him the most important thing
> is for him
> to find out for himself..read investigate and take YOUR
> truth out of
> the knowledge you gain...maybe this is what he is
> doing(and I know
> this is the best course and truly the only way for anyone
> to gain
> wisdom)...I just dont understand the conflict aspect we
> share at
> these times....If anyone has any ideas on the situation I
> appreciate
> your response.Thank you.
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