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Recieved: 2001/08/12 06:51
Subject: Re: godrealized introduces himself [K-list] Digest Number 675
From: Divine Goddess
On 2001/08/12 06:51, Divine Goddess posted thus to the K-list:
Vijay,
You certainly have a limited understanding of what god is. But that's
natural, for you are only human.
> Your existence in this World is indicative of the presence of God,
the> Almighty Creator. God neither manifests nor talks to normal
citizens of> the World. One has to realize God before one can develop
the inherent> capability to establish contact with the Creator.
This is a proud and elitist position to take. Are you attempting to
establish yourself as a guru or world saviour? There is no special
quality a person has to have to make contact with the Creator. The
Creator is in contact with and embodies us infinitely and
ominpresently right now at this very instant.
Your preaching of this concept of separation, that we must
be "better" in some way to make contact, promotes hopelessness and
isolation...not the words of a god realized person in my humble
opinion. This is the 'party propaganda line' of all the world's major
religions. You are only regurgiating religious myths of control.
If this is how you experience realizing the Creator, I propose you
haven't realized god yet but only your own religious projections and
fetishes and have made them sacraments. Very dangerous. That is how
wars and conflict start. (Your projections are being validated by
your visions. Amazing how our subconscious mind works in it's
programming).
Too bad your myth of being god realized (rather than Self-Realized)
is such a seductive trap. It gives you too much ego stroking so it is
difficult to drop those chains that bind you. One can only realize
their projections which arise from one's internal beliefs and ideas
of god. Your and your god and world view projections are very
paternal and patriarchal. There is another step beyond that.
Hopefully, you will open your eyes to the Light that flares Within.
> The Saint replied - even as a lowly insect the scorpion is not
willing> to forego its inherent nature (of biting then how can I ...
a human> being (the highest in the manifestation on Mother Earth)
forego my habit> of saving the one in need!!!
>
> This lesson in compassion is the foremost I have found anywhere in
any> Scripture on Mother Earth till date. It was greatly instrumental
in> controlling my wanton desires and ego while traveling on the path
of> self-realization.
It depends on how you look at this lesson. I see it as a lesson in
ignorance and silliness in interfering with the lives of others. It
shows that even Saints have no common sense and can reap the
consequences. It violates the concept of free will. It is also very
discourteous and silly to save someone without their permission.
It also is a picture of one of the oldest human psychological
pathologies on this planet called in contemporary terms, codepedency.
Other times we would call it being a busybody, a fixer, a martyr, a
rescuer...a saviour.It is a dance that has no ending, no winners, no
empowerment for the players and leaves bitterness in their mouths.
The triad of players in this codependence is rescuer, victim,
attacker. What a drama that can be created out of this triumvirate.
Your ego has not been controlled, it only has become refined and
sophisticated in hiding it's presence. LOL! And your desires are
even more subtle that you don't see them but are quite flagrantly
evident to a lot of us here on the k list.
Yes, this is a kundalini list dedicated to discussing the nature of
kundalini. Fortunately, people like you show up now and then to show
one of the most amazing things to see in kundalini manifestation,
kundalini psychosis...the belief that one is specially appointed to
become a saviour/leader in the world and has special, inside
information to collaborate these claims.
Don't worry. It is a common phase in kundalini rising. It passes if
you don't become attached to it and you will become normal again. We
almost all go through this phase in one degree of intensity or
another. You are loved by us no matter where you are in your phases
of growth with Kundalini.
I suggest you read the book, "If You Meet Buddha on the Road, Kill
Him."
Blessings,
Susan
PS. Being Self realized is a myth too. One can only be what they be.
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