To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/07/16 04:10
Subject: [K-list] Re: Surrender Meanings...
From: Nina
On 2001/07/16 04:10, Nina posted thus to the K-list:
Interesting. What does this sound like? (I asked myself...)
Sounds like: surrender is losing your eyeballs to faith.
Sounds like: a homily I once heard at Carswell Air Force Base Chapel
on faith above all else. That time, used to promote the Catholic
Church. Ironically, that chapel also served the Methodist crowd.
(hehe, the cross with Jesus crucified rotated out of the curtains
behind the altar to reveal a cross with no Jesus crucified... this at
11:00 am sharp, when the Methodists took over the church... rotated
back at 12:00 pm sharp, when the Catholics took over again. This sort
of thing happened in every single one of the Sunday School
classrooms, as well.. and in the "coffee hall".. hehe, my first
lesson in the tides of "faith"..)
Sounds like: God/dess is outside of Self.
Sounds like: God/dess is at odds with Self.
Where is the wholeness of this?
How is denigrating ego any more "right" than denigrating your body?
Of dwelling in one area of your Self to the exclusion of others?
Cat, there is a quality of your words I do not wish to negate... what
I am reading in them, however, brings up questions. I welcome your
response.
Nina
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., CLEOCATRAsATnospama... wrote:
> What is surrender?
>
> Surrender is letting go, trusting God/dess will handle all things
for you.
> Surrender is like getting into the rollercoaster cart without
knowing if the
> track is good, yet you do know, because God/dess is involved with
you.
>
> Surrender is neutral position. Not bringing in your Ego self, your
self
> focus. Throwing away arrogance, wantings, guilt, stubborness,
resentment,
> vendictiveness, fear, fear of fear, worry, future plans,
attachments,
> investments, expectations. God/dess is all there is, you dont need
to know
> what is at the end of the roller coaster track. Whatever it is, it
is what
> God/dess has designed.
>
> Surrender is throwing away willfulness and leaving self to sit back
and watch
> the events unfold without things "sticking to you" which means
causing energy
> to not be focused on God/dess, but instead, your Self.
>
> Surrender means to let go and let God/dess. To quit promoting
outcomes the
> way you wish them to be. Instead your wish is to let them be just
what they
> are.
> Surrender is to live with your ego packed in the trunk while your
faith
> carries you on a majick carpet. Faith is trusting that God/dess
knows what is
> best whether you can see it or not, and to sit on that carpet and
feel the
> bliss of the ride, minus all those other attachments... Bliss comes
when
> there are no attachments to willfullness, and only through
surrender.
>
> Surrender is being able to stand before little deaths and feel no
second
> thoughts, no misgivings, no fear. Little deaths are giving up the
focus on
> what you want and just enjoying the ride. Little deaths of what you
want,
> what you worked for, what you expect to happen because you
invested, what you
> thought you could cause people to do in the interest of your ideas.
Your
> intentions.
> When all the little deaths are past you, the funeral of fear no
longer
> attracts your attention, all that is left are the fruits and the
flowers of
> no remembering, no thought only the light of God/dess. You cross
the veil,
> have moments that you can see with her eyes, love with her loving
and you
> ride that majik carpet that has no bumps or accidents or injuries..
only
> learning, growing and travelling experiences in bliss, calm, peace,
> timelessness, gifts, bounty...
>
> It is only the ego mind that suffers, until it surrenders to pure
faith --
> without self attachment, unrelented non-hesitant spontaniety (in
the moment
> there is no space for thought). Ego mind writes and composes the
suffering,
> the fear, the reluctance, the hesitation, the debate of the issue
of
> surrender -- hears its own argument and only as its own possession
in order
> to define itself. Without ego, and letting go to surrender, none of
these
> things exist. No more definition or explaining is necessary.
>
> Cat
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