To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/06/19 07:19
Subject: [K-list] Re: mr. "pWesident"
From: Euph77
On 2001/06/19 07:19, Euph77 posted thus to the K-list:
--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamy..., "Denise Lyon Anding" <lyonesseATnospamb...>
wrote:
> mr. "pWesident"
>
> Ah, politics, the "forbidden" subject. Don't you just love it?
(And every other forbidden thing you are screamed at for daring to
investigate... Cultural programming just didn't take all that well
with me... how about you?)
not so much here either, denise...try southern baptist, republican
parents programming. gosh, they gave me so little to rebel against as
a teenager..heh.
actually, as an aside, there is aalways hope. fortunately, my
programming was of the moderate sort. which alloweded me to slide
over to fence sitter, the.."oops" i fell off the fence!
> Anyway, what ever side of the fence you are on about the
"pWesident," there are two op-ed pieces in the New York Times you may
enjoy. One even references K.
>
> "Inside Al Gore's Head" 13 June
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/opinion/13DOWD.html
> self-explanatory...
>
> "Dr. Pangloss, I Presume?" 12 June
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/12/opinion/12COLL.html
> this is for the linguists. about a member of the Cabinet who has
an ear for the Bushian dialect and has formed a linguistic construct
for our time.
>
> Both are amusing.
>
ooh..thanks for references. i find politics fascinating in a "this is
what goes on on the planet i live on in this lifetime" kind of way.
>
> So, why am I writing this, my editors (the moderators) ask?
>
> Politics do tend to arouse the passions in us all. People the
world over are still left scratching their heads at America's latest
election and its following of bizarre happenings.
>
> When I felt those passions (and certainly other situations not
related to this) arise I asked Spirit what to do with all this
energy? What would be more productive? I just didn't like feeling
so frustrated.
wow, same here. it sucked........and i found/find not all that much
relief in the liberatarian camp, though it makes more sense to me on
alot of issues than R or D.
>
> The answer came back, "Find the neutral zone." And I argued, "Are
you serious? How am I ever going to be 'neutral' about this kind of
'stuff'? (Like injustice, hypocrisy, people dying the slow death of
AIDS)
> "Go to the neutral zone. It is an 'observation post.' It is a
place of detachment, yet without separation. Be the observer
observing Spirit at work. Wait and see. Watch and then 'really
see.' You will understand then."
i got the same thing. back up. back up farther. look. watch. see.
un-engage those parts of you that attach and identify, observe, but
..don't get a big stomachache about it all...
> And, of course, Spirit lead the way and was accurate yet again.
The passions do subside. And it beats frustration. Without all
those swirling energy passions, there is clarity of Mind. This is an
interesting "zone." It isn't the same as that cold clinical
intellectual detachment where the heart level is cut off. This
detachment includes flowing through the heart and connectedness.
What a paradox!
you are really speaking about something i experience. the paradox.
but, you are right..either you pop up to that "zone" or you
spontanseously combust OR you turn into a bitter ANGer perSon. the
sort of "helpless" feeling can spin me onto my head if i let it.
>
> And, of course, Spirit used this political election to start me on
yet another Snake Ride. I have collected every scrap of information
written during this time. All the Supreme Court documents, op-ed,
news stories, pros and cons, international coverage as well as
domestic and historic references to 100 years ago, Constitutional law
references, you name it as it came up. Now it is every news story
and op-ed concerning the working of the administration, pro and con,
domestic and international. During and after this Snake Ride all is
and will be further examined to observe how Spirit works. What was
the process here and why?
same here...
>
> Politics, so how many chakras does this work? Of course, then
there's the global version of K, both countries and the "earth
planet." Pretty cool to observe the K moving, its present results
and seeing themes develop and just starting to realize just where Its
going.
>
> Always learning who "It" is,
> Denise
thanks for succinctly putting words to what have been my observations
and experience reconciling K, spirit growth, the freakin' past
U.S. pwes. election and the subsequent reality we live in now because
of it..
how deatchment doesn't mean turning into a zombie.
i don't know if anyone else on thee list paid attention to the post
about the disclosure project that someone posted away back about
dr stephen greer and his drive to have the gov't tell us what they
have and know about possible interactions and technolgy gleaned
from other lifeforms.
i certainly am not trying to get off topic, to me, much of this
interweaves with my K experience...but it certainly doesn't resonate
with everytone...
again, even in this case...i remind myself to
pull the camera back...farther...:) there is a bigger picture
always...
ramblingly,
melissa
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