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Recieved: 2001/06/09 18:39
Subject: Beauty (was Re: [K-list] If we are not "God/dess" ...)
From: v
On 2001/06/09 18:39, v posted thus to the K-list:
thankyou Hillary,
I think in this case we have forgotten to consider the rising of the
kundalini through the chakras, and are only concentrating upon the negative
connotations of the sounds of words. Good explanation about how we can become
"stuck" on a more negative and imbalanced level in the communications chakra -
thus breathing life into the flimsy "thoughtform god" as a substitute for the
god/ess of one's heart.
Funny thing - today on my radio show I played quite a few chants by
KrishnaDas - a devotee of Maharaj-ji in India, and helper of Baba Ram Dass. Here
is what he has to say (and what I read on the air) on chanting:
"Chanting is part of the path of Devotional Yoga.
When we see the beauty of our own being we are seeing the beauty of the Being
that is the One of which we are all a part. And when we turn towards that One,
love is the natural reaction of the heart.
God or Guru is an endless ocean of love, truth and presence. First we may hear
the distant roar of the crashing waves of the ocean and we're drawn to that
sound. As we get closer, we can smell the ocean air and taste the sweet
moisture. When we reach the beach and see the ocean for the first time, we're
transfixed by the vastness and Beauty. We run and we dive in and enjoy the
freedom that comes from this ecstacy. Finally we merge with that ocean of love
and somehow find ourselves back on the shore, returning to ourselves so that we
can share the experience with others.
Those that have returned have given us these Names of God. These names are the
sound of the surf of that Ocean of Love. They hold the power to help us find our
way back to that ocean. We don't have to create anything; we don't have to
manufature any emotions or feelings. We can't make it happen. It already is. All
we have to do is Remember. Everyone has their own path to this beach, to the
Ocean, but all wind up in the same place. There is only one...One.
Satsang is where people gather together to remember, to turn within and find
their own inner path to the One. When we gather together to sing like this we
are helping each other find our own paths. We must all travel this path by
ourselves because each of us is our own path. All these paths wander in their
own way, but in truth we are all travelling together and until the last of us
arrives we will all keep travelling. So let's sing!"
It's all on a CD called 'Live On Earth (for a limited time only)' by KrishnaDas,
and is wonderful meditative ear candy for the heart.
all my best,
valerie
:-)
druoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Chris writes: cw: so .. how is the worship of a thoughtform God
> > created by man .. "spiritual"
>
> And Val writes:
>
> > How could anybody mistake that Force - by whatever name It goes - for any
> > flimsy "thoughtform God"?
>
> Dear Valerie, List,
>
> Speaking of "thoughtform God" :)) I've been reading Kundalini Awakening by
> John Selby and came across this interesting passage on the 5th chakra
> (throat).
>
> ***********
>
> "...But as Joseph Chilton Pearce clearly states, as a reflection of the
> spiritual teacher Muktananda's observations, "No experience in this fifth
> chakra is a mystical experience of God, though it may be awesome and
> paradisaical. The fifth chakra and its possibilities must be conceptualized,
> and God is not a concept.
>
> "So at the lower level of fifth-chakra functioning, we have vocalization and
> the transmission of concepts through sound vibration and related media
> transmissions. In the more exoteric dimensions of fifth-chakra experience,
> we encounter the magical and sometimes horrifying dimension where dreams seem
> to be real, where ghosts leap out at us and challenge us to call them
> figments of our hyperactive imaginations, and where visions even of God come
> to us to inspire our spiritual lives.
>
> "I have worked with many clients over the years who were fixated in the
> astral dimensions of the fifth chakra, and my treatment was always the
> same--to help them wake up their sixth and fourth chakras, so as to gain more
> balance between the masculine energies of the Throat Chakra and the feminine
> energies of the intuitive and Heart Chakras. This is a seemingly pat
> intellectual answer to what can be very serious psychological problems
> associated with fifth-chakra hyperactivity But when we put to use the
> kundalini vehicles that we have been learning in this book, the treatment
> becomes concrete and effective."
>
> ***********
>
> Love, Hillary
>
>
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