To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/05/16 14:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: initiations, reiki and vipassana
From: Danijel Turina
On 2001/05/16 14:39, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list:
At 13:54 16.5.2001 -0700, Angelique wrote:
>At 02:56 AM 5/16/01, you wrote:
>>Hiya all :)
>>No, I didn't die,
>
> Hi cutie. I didn't think you'd died. Your silence was golden. :) :P
;)) I can imagine. ;)
>>I was writing, publishing my book, writing the next one etc... if you don't
>>mind reading from the screen, it's http://www.danijel.org/misc/Book.pdf ,
>>the others can find the printed thing on Amazon. Pleasant reading. :)
>
> I already have a copy of your book.. I printed it up to send to
>Llewellyn, remember?
Yes, I remember... those assholes never even tried to read the manuscript.
If they did, they'd save me a year's work. I published it anyway.
But, it's for the other folks, I know that you have it, the message was
"hi" to all, and then a reply to yours.
>>I guess I still agree with you, tho, since you seem to be saying that God's
>>a bit smarter than us and if we just stop making his life difficuld by
>>meddling, he'd take care of us the best way possible.
>
> Yup.. pretty much what I always say. Best use of free will is to
>surrender free will. But then, I guess you have never read my Fire Serpent
>Tantra course..
I saw a couple of your videos, way back. Too busy for more...
>>Well, true, but don't forget that he wasn't born knowing it all, he had to
>>work on it a bit,
>
> That is pretty much what I say, in the next paragraph that you snipped.
Who said you didn't? I'm just trying to make a conversation, that's all.
>>I guess that Domchi would get a great piece of satisfaction from this post
>>of yours, since he got flamed the last time, when he said that Reiki is a
>>pathetic piece of meddling with lower prana. :)
>
> Perhaps he could get some pointers on good manners from it. Funny how I
>am able to express it in a way that it is easily digestible and does not
>spark reflexive flaming resistance. Diplomacy is an art worth mastering.
I dislike diplomacy. I'm usually extremely straightforward, and if someone
has a problem with it, he can kiss my ass.
>>Of course. However, although it doesn't need improving, it also doesn't
>>need to be fucked up with all the stuff that we do in order to reduce our
>>concept of ourselves to mere pieces of meat surrounded by a carnivore
>>universe. :)
>
> Who does that?
Oh, I talked with some guys on usenet recently... atheists, "it's all in
your head" and "spiritual experience is just crazy people hallucinating",
"nothing beyond the physical" kind of theories.
> The guy who gave me 1st degree was kind of a sad being, but I had
>sympathy for him, so I accepted his barter. Gotta be careful with that
>sympathy stuff..
I seem to have a problem with another sort, the ones with zero empathy, the
kind you talk to and witness yourself talking and ask yourself what's the
point and you wish you're not there. Like my publisher. Ayy...
>> > I did get intense results from my initiations as a Pagan high
>> >Priestess. Once a Witch, always a Witch.
>>
>>Witch my ass. Show me a witch that teaches surrender to God,
>
> www.fire-serpent.com
;) I meant a real witch. :)
>>and not some
>>sort of free will meddling trying to improve the world. You just needed a
>>label for yourself in order to have a sense of belonging.
>
> Always so cynical. Don't you ever get tired of it? I sure do..
You just took it as cynical, it was actually meant as a compliment.
> The initiation activated a subsidiary chakra center in my sacrum that
>related to feeling like you belong on the planet, in the tribe. Usually
>this center is activated when the baby first straightens its legs to push
>out of the womb. I was born backwards so it had had not been activated, and
>my other efforts to activate it didn't work. The High Priestess initiation
>did the trick.
> Pretty intense, I had to be helped up off the floor after the ritual.
Very cool. :)
>> You also liked
>>the energy work and this stuff gave you the aliby.
>
> I already had the ability.
As I said, you liked it. I didn't say that you learnt it there.
I'm just being friendly. </firewall>, OK?
>>By activities we learn, and activities and
>>experiences are a result of karma, at one hand, and leed to further karma,
>>as a result of either learning or not. This is a bullshit explanation but
>>I'm not in a mood for writing a book about it. :)
>
> What made you think I needed an explanation?
Jesus, are you always so defensive or do I just check in some other time
and catch you at a better day? ;>
>>Gee, I mean wow, you still can write loooooooong posts,
>
> These days, mostly when I'm avoiding doing something else.. in this
>case, making a new bed for druid's yacht.. cutting foam, sewing upholstery..
> Well, best get back to it.
Have fun. :) :*
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