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Recieved: 2001/05/16 13:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: initiations, reiki and vipassana
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/05/16 13:54, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 02:56 AM 5/16/01, you wrote:
>Hiya all :)
>No, I didn't die,
Hi cutie. I didn't think you'd died. Your silence was golden. :) :P
>I was writing, publishing my book, writing the next one etc... if you don't
>mind reading from the screen, it's http://www.danijel.org/misc/Book.pdf ,
>the others can find the printed thing on Amazon. Pleasant reading. :)
I already have a copy of your book.. I printed it up to send to
Llewellyn, remember?
>Now, what do we have here... :))
>
> > From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mystressATnospamfire-serpent.com
>Hello Darling, smee again. ;) Mr. Pain van der Ass, at Thy bidding. ;)
LOL.
> >Subject: Re: initiations, reiki and vipassana
> > Hmm.. yeah, I can see where he is coming from, but his attitude
> >contradicts his intentions. Strictly speaking, any action to "heal", comes
> >from a judgment of Free Will,
>
>:) But, the free will, also, _is_. :)
Who said it isn't? I'm not the one promoting vipsanna.
>I guess I still agree with you, tho, since you seem to be saying that God's
>a bit smarter than us and if we just stop making his life difficuld by
>meddling, he'd take care of us the best way possible.
Yup.. pretty much what I always say. Best use of free will is to
surrender free will. But then, I guess you have never read my Fire Serpent
Tantra course.. well, I never read all of your book, either...;P :)
> I'm saying the same
>thing and I wrote a book about it so that I could whack people on the head
>with it, so that they don't forget.
At present I'm writing 3 books.
> Soon, we'll start improving ourselves and wow, what
>an improved future it will be. :)
Ever visited the "end of the Rope Ranch" list? Judi hates self improvers..
>Well, true, but don't forget that he wasn't born knowing it all, he had to
>work on it a bit,
That is pretty much what I say, in the next paragraph that you snipped.
>I guess that Domchi would get a great piece of satisfaction from this post
>of yours, since he got flamed the last time, when he said that Reiki is a
>pathetic piece of meddling with lower prana. :)
Perhaps he could get some pointers on good manners from it. Funny how I
am able to express it in a way that it is easily digestible and does not
spark reflexive flaming resistance. Diplomacy is an art worth mastering.
>Of course. However, although it doesn't need improving, it also doesn't
>need to be fucked up with all the stuff that we do in order to reduce our
>concept of ourselves to mere pieces of meat surrounded by a carnivore
>universe. :)
Who does that?
> > The 1st degree Reiki symbols showed up in shower tantra meditation one
> >day as black marks on my chakras and my first impulse was to clear them,
> >before I even recognised what they were.
>
>Hmm, so that's how they work.
Yup. The reiki symbols are painted over the chakras, to direct how the
energy flows with "good intentions."
> Yuck. To me, reiki feels like a combination
>of astral masturbation and pathetically executed energy work. But, it sure
>beats joining the Hare Krishnas. :)
Different strokes..
> >They would not clear, so after
> >contemplating why for a while, I was guided to reconnect with the woman who
> >initiated me 2nd degree.
>
>:) So, you picked another torn in order to pull out the first one, eh? ;)
Jeanne is a sweet lady, and a dear friend. She is much more experienced
with Reiki than me. Too experienced, in a way.. I did some work to peel
away several ineffective initiations off her. I asked her what she thought
she would get from them, that Goddess would not provide? She went "Bingo!"
That was what her own guidance had been trying to tell her, but the message
had not come through clearly till I expressed it so.
The guy who gave me 1st degree was kind of a sad being, but I had
sympathy for him, so I accepted his barter. Gotta be careful with that
sympathy stuff..
>It's only fair of her to return you to your original state. :)))
The second degree symbols that she had applied were not a problem, I
didn't notice them at all. Perhaps because my Higher Self would not let
them stick.. the higher purpose was not to initiate me, but to show her a
better way of working with energy.
>How the hell does she manage to have influence on your system, when you
>gave her the ability to use the bloody energy for it in the first place??
Because I allow it. Consent. She served me by melting the 1st degree
symbols away.
>Oh well, if you did clear it yourself she wouldn't have learned the "new
>and improved reiki", so I guess it's just a strange way to initiate a
>"reiki master". :)
Exactly so.. except the stuff she got from my higher self isn't reiki..
she did not understand that until the mastery initiation. It is Tummo fire.
>I guess so. :) Don't let this guy wash your dishes, tho. ;)
Haven't seen him in years.. he was sent to me by his psychiatrist for a
spanking. He was obsessed with being spanked, and psychiatrists are not
allowed to spank their patients. That was back in.. 1996? Earlier..
> > I did get intense results from my initiations as a Pagan high
> >Priestess. Once a Witch, always a Witch.
>
>Witch my ass. Show me a witch that teaches surrender to God,
www.fire-serpent.com
>and not some
>sort of free will meddling trying to improve the world. You just needed a
>label for yourself in order to have a sense of belonging.
Always so cynical. Don't you ever get tired of it? I sure do..
The initiation activated a subsidiary chakra center in my sacrum that
related to feeling like you belong on the planet, in the tribe. Usually
this center is activated when the baby first straightens its legs to push
out of the womb. I was born backwards so it had had not been activated, and
my other efforts to activate it didn't work. The High Priestess initiation
did the trick.
Pretty intense, I had to be helped up off the floor after the ritual.
> You also liked
>the energy work and this stuff gave you the aliby.
I already had the ability. I've been moving energy since I was 14 years
old. The ritual was lovely, tho. No regrets.
> You, yourself told me
>that other witches that you know are a bunch of limited folks with strange
>explanations for what you manage to do. C'mon.
I got a very pretty apology for those misguided incidents.. was asked
to be chairman of the board for that particular event last year. Declined,
too busy..
Most of them are limited.. although in the higher degrees, there is
more surrender... in the early degrees they are just beginning to learn
that magic works. Building faith in their own ability, through
experimenting with the power of free will and discovering how their
thoughts affect their reality. Diminishing the "rational" western mind that
says magic and miracles are impossible. Have to have an ego, to have an
ego to surrender.
Wicca and pagan stuff has no single ideology. Part of the essence,
ideology is that it is whatever the individual makes of it. No dogmatic
hierarchies, except for the practical purposes of teaching and ritual. For
most, it is a hybrid of whatever the individual finds useful.
I still enjoy the company of pagans. Beltane was fun! We danced the
Maypole and serenaded the moon, jumped the Baelfire. I appreciate how
pagans celebrate the gift of life by enjoying it.. dancing, feasting,
drumming, having sex, celebrating the beauty of nature as Goddess manifest.
I prefer the company of people who treat me with love and respect,
:) even if I do not wholly agree with their philosophy.
I'll try to find you a copy of the charge of the Goddess.. it speaks of
how Goddess can only be found within, and how the finding results in being
free from need. I think it would surprise you.
There are some archaeological scholars that suggest that the Eastern
religion was actually derived from Celtic beliefs. Both have a Goddess
Tara, and the Celts were travelling the world long before anyone knew. Saw
a very kewl special on Discovery channel the other night, about some 5000
year old, wheel using, tartan wearing caucasion mummies that were found in
a desert in China. It was a repeat, I have seen it before but it was a
pleasure to watch it again. There is quite a lot of information about this
on the web; unfortunately much of it has been hijacked and distorted for
use as a propaganda tool of white supremacists.. ick.. so you have to read
with discernment.
> > channelling energy to another person is always a form of action that
> >can be seen as a lack of faith on a higher chakra level.
>
>I just show it to them, and if they recognize it as their own, they get to
>keep it.
Showing is not projecting.
> > Like the Chinese curse, "May you clear all your karma by next week and
> >become enlightened".. too much karma coming up too fast can be a nightmare.
>
>There's much more to karma than this.
Of course.. but Karma was not the central topic of this post.
> Every situation that makes you
>understand and learn is the result of karma unfolding. The word originally
>means "action, activity".
Pretty much what I said in the opening paragraphs.. reiki=action=karma,
vipassana= inaction=dharma.. or less action, at least.. inaction is not
really possible... and arguably, since there is nothing that is not Divine
Will, Dharma is All.
>By activities we learn, and activities and
>experiences are a result of karma, at one hand, and leed to further karma,
>as a result of either learning or not. This is a bullshit explanation but
>I'm not in a mood for writing a book about it. :)
What made you think I needed an explanation?
> >channeling the words and charging the page. There is no non consensual
> >projection, it is more like a fountain where any who thirst, can come and
> >drink their fill. No karmic feedback.. but some nice bonus points for the
> >compassionate work.
>
>These bonus points _are_ the karmic feedback. :)
Yes, but they are filtered through a higher level.. vertical, not
horizontal. Much more pleasant than the feedback of projecting energy. I
finally got some of my excessive empathy under control when I stopped. Once
I thought to look, I was amazed at how many people I was supporting with my
energy.. and getting emotional karmic junk from, in return. People who had
asked for my support in some way, over the years. People who had asked for
my Love, energy, blessings, light.. they all had a piece of me and I was
getting feedback of emotional chaos in return.
Much more peaceful around here since.
> > I went through a period where whenever I said to myself, "It will be as
> >Goddess Wills", my heart voice responded "Thou art Goddess."
>
>Yes, well, the end result is supposed to be that, we should, in our
>actions, thoughts, entire being etc. embody the Divine, by constantly
>choosing the Divine over the illusion.
yup, sure.. but I still revert to the hierarchies when doing some
work.. stuff flows better. When my energy system is completely clear, I am
Goddess.. but if I take on some stuff, or attach to something, then there
is separation again, so it makes sense to surrender to the existence of
separation in the Now, and move stuff vertically via surrender till I am
unified again.
When I am Goddess, free will is not an issue, there is silence in my
mind.. acting without thinking. When there is some noise, then I use the
thinking to surrender the thinking.
>Always the choice. I actually saw
>the guys who repeatedly choose the illusion, claiming that they choose God.
>Good religious folks they are. Brr, vade retro satanas. :)
Life may be an illusion, but a pleasant one, for sure.. my life, at least.
>:PPPP :)))
Likewise.
>Gee, I mean wow, you still can write loooooooong posts,
These days, mostly when I'm avoiding doing something else.. in this
case, making a new bed for druid's yacht.. cutting foam, sewing upholstery..
Well, best get back to it.
Blessings..
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