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Recieved: 2001/05/10 20:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] I wonder/name dropping reply 2 .. Sheidi
From: sheidi
On 2001/05/10 20:54, sheidi posted thus to the K-list:
I can't type, because my thumb is broken. My entire fore arm is in a cast.
I will reply to your post when that thingy is off my arm. If that takes a
long time, be patient, I would not miss the opportunity to reply to your
post. Meanwhile, if I can do the mouse with my left hand, I will check your
archives to find the posts I'm looking for. Not today though or tomorrow
but at the exact time when I feel like it.
Patience, bud
Am
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> From: Christopher Wynter <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com>
> To: K-list
> Subject: Re: [K-list] I wonder/name dropping reply 2 .. Sheidi
> Date: May 8, 2001 11:31 AM
>
> At 03:38 PM 8/05/01, you wrote:
> >These are the perfect ingredients for the dynamics of CULTS. CW wrote
once
> >that one man does not make a cult. Wrong...... It need take only one
> >leader and the rest are followers.
>
> Only if they choose to be followers ..
> the people who chose to work with me
> had the freedom to come and go as they chose ..
>
> >They are then first stripped of their
> >beliefs and their self-esteem until they know less than ever who they
are.
>
> This may be true for infusion of mind control
>
> >Only when they have given up all they know about themselves will those
> >"powers" that be infuse the victim with their garbage.
> >This is clever in
> >its cruelty. What staggers me is that the church which you hate so much
CW
> >is nothing but a immensly larger cult than the one you're enjoying so
much
> >in Hobart. Are you quite sure you're not the "Tasmanian Devil"?
> Huh .. for there to be a cult, there have to be followers ..
> Now, if I had some followers, you might be right ..
> problem with your line here is that there are no followers ..
>
> >I knew what you were doing when you talked about this miracle boy
>
> why do you call him a miracle boy .. ?
>
> both of them were just ordinary children ..
> there were actually two boys and a girl child involved ..
> and about 6 others associated .. who I have not spoken about
>
> you see ..
> it is all of the programming, expectations and infusions of
beliefs
> which make people extraordinary ..
>
> >whom you
> >wanted to be raised as a perfectly free child who was not to be scolded
but
> >left absolutely free rain and then this little guy ran the whole
household.
> Oh .. I see .. you have it on first hand experience that they were not
> corrected ..
> and that they had absolutely free reign .. maybe you should
> re-read the
> material that you are misquoting here ..
> > Both his mother and grandmother had to live with this little terror
and
> >could, in the end not stand to be dominated by this child any longer, a
> >child not much older than two. .
> You forgot to mention that grandmother is a practicing child psychologist
> and social worker who works in the child welfare field with children at
risk ..
> and that Fiona is an Infants school teacher with a Uni Degree ..
> and that there was also a registered nurse living in the house ..
> >As you CW would not have been able to do
> >either if you had lived with him. But, you were clever. You had those
> >people live with him in a differentnt area, a different house didn't
you.
> No .. as a matter of fact, I lived in the house with both little boys ..
> and so did Fiona ..
> >So,
> >when the little one acted up and screamed bloody murder when he didn't
get
> >his way, you and Fiona didn't have to listen to his tantrums, did you.
>
> Well .. that's funny .. I don't remember any of the incidents you
describe
> here .. neither do any of the others involved ..
>
> These are, of course, your words from your experience with little boys ..
?
> and you have an intimate and first hand knowledge of the facts of this
case
> having lived in the house .. don't you ..
>
> >That
> >was your "clever" experiment and it backfired on you when the mother and
> >grandmother took the child and moved away because they wanted to be free
of
> >your dominance.
>
> Funny thing was here .. that it was Fiona and I who moved out .. so that
> we could do a different kind of work .. for which that house was too
small ..
> and the grand mother is still living in the house ..
>
> >Now, if you and Fiona had taken this child into your own home and
> >experienced with him yourself, then, you might have had my respect for
this
>
> Well .. I do have the experience of raising two of my own children ..
> a boy and a girl and the same principles were followed ..
> and both have tested IQ's in the top 2% ever recorded in the
> Western World.
> >would have been an immense task of vast patience and sleepless nights
and
> >wild days with this little tyrant.
>
> I see .. he is now a tyrant .. do you have an issue with little boys by
> some chance ..
> Now tell me .. where did you get the idea that he was a tyrant .. what is
your
> source of this erroneous information ..?
>
> Its funny, but all of the people I have spoken to who have had anything
to do
> with either child have (not knowing I had anything to do with them)
commented
> on how quiet and gentle and loving they were ..
> But, then, from your words, I wonder whether you
> could allow the possibility that any male child could
> be this way .. especially if you have been preconditioned
> into some other belief set ..
>
> You do have my admiration, though, in the manner in which you
> have taken the material that I have written on this subject .. extracted
> what suited you .. and convoluted these snippets to create a
> discordance where there was none.
>
> I admire your diligence in digging into material that was written
> over 12 months ago .. its a pity you did not read all of the material
> which I have presented on this subject .. in the correct sequence ..
> and in the context it was written.
>
> Then, of course, there is the material which I have not made
> available .. and some of that might make you really spit ..
> CW
>
>
>
>
>
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