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Recieved: 2001/05/10 15:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ripplez...
From: missy chicken
On 2001/05/10 15:39, missy chicken posted thus to the K-list:
ok christopher...... now ive heard all im going to hear from you!!! get with
the program and read the book of enoch before you continue HEALING all these
child attachments!!!! you honestly have no fucking idea what they are or
whom they belong to!!!!!!
anyone who does have one of these attachments consider yourself lucky!!!!
they are truly a blessing once you get a handle on them :)
missy
>From: Christopher Wynter <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com>
>To: K-list
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Ripplez...
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:09:11 +1000
>What many people do not understand .. and this is something that
>I have found out from bitter experience ..
>
>is that when some "well meaning" therapist who does not understand
>the meaning and principles of "transference" gets deeply involved
>with a client on an emotional level .. without clearing all of their own
>personal issues first ..
>
> they can (and very often do) trap both themselves
> and their client (friend) into a self-repeating pattern ..
>
> often unconsciously ..
> as is the case illustrated in point by what has
> happened with mystress here.
>
>Yes .. what I may write at times may seem to be unfeeling, cool, aloof ..
>all of those words ... but working on this level with people,
>I must maintain a level of detachment .. because, if I do not
>
> I know I will trap the people I am writing to
> into their cycle .. and I will take on, a passenger
> their particular trauma archetype ..
>
>and when one works with severe trauma cases, this can be
>very draining .. as is seen by the number of therapists who go
>through "therapeutic burnout".
>When you are working on yourself, you will get nowhere
>until and unless you cut all ties with any priests, guru's
>therapists, masters .. and well meaning friends
>
> with whom you have opened yourself seeking
> sympathy and understanding.
>
>When, as a therapist, you are working with a client, if it matters
>to you what happens with your client to the point where you cannot
>maintain some level of detachment, you are going to eventually
>cripple yourself before long.
>
> In this case .. and you cannot fully dismiss the client/friend
> at the end of the session, there is a reflection of the client's
> story within you which is unresolved.
>The same can be said for family .. especially where there was a
>close relationship between two (or more) children.
>
> I have often encountered transference between children
> where the client is actually looking through the eyes of a
> sibling .. and the bipolar personality I am dealing with
> is a passenger taken on very early in life.
>
> In such a case, it is necessary to identify who I am dealing
> because healing can not take place if the therapist is working
> with a passenger personality .. and not the real client.
>The other thing here .. is that I refuse to work with someone who has
>had a sexual relationship within 3 days of the session because, there
>is again, the transference of the partner as an overlay onto the client
>
> Which is again .. one of the reasons that a lot of sexual abuse
> trauma does not work, because the victim is permeated with
> the troubled personality of the abuser .. and because there is
> a mutual victim resonance in every such case, there can be
> no resolution until both personalities are addressed.
>To every person who comes to me saying
> "I want to be a healer or therapist" ..
>
>I ask the question
> "who or what is it in you that needs healing"
> and, yes, for me, it has been a long process ..
> one that has only been possible because I looked
> at every pattern presented to me by a client
> in terms of
> "what, if anything, is this person reflecting to me
> that needs resolution within myself"
>
> and I also know that most .. if not everything that I would write
> or say to a client .. is spoken firstly to my self so that my own
> body may hear the advice that I would present to my client.
>cw
>Christopher Wynter
>
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