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Recieved: 2001/05/08 22:20
Subject: Re: [K-list] empaths
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2001/05/08 22:20, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
People sometimes have a problem with some of the words I use and the
definitions of those words ..
English, not being my native language, I learned its origins and roots
with reference to the Concise Oxford Dictionary of English .. and,
unfortunately, there are a lot of differences in meaning when you compare
the Oxford with the more recent Webster's American Dictionary.
What you have described here is a stage that I went through also ..
it is one of the Siddhis .. (or magic powers) known in some areas
as the transpersonal bands ..
These senses come from reactions or resonances from the individual
chakras to the energy of the other person .. they are not specifically
(although it is often the case) emotionally based .. in that the reaction
comes from the emotional centres within the "feeler".
These resonances are the principle of the mirror ..
There is a state of consciousness where one moves beyond the
reaction .. beyond the experience .. to a state of Knowing .. and this is
beautifully described in the Yoga Sutras of Patenjali ..
It is a state where one can "Know" the other .. without experiencing
what the other is experiencing .. and yet the "knower" also knows
the experience of the other.
This state is reached through the release of all of the discordances
within the physical body which causes one to react .. or mirror an
other person.
It is not found through any one centre .. but is the resonance of all
centres functioning as a whole .. as a cohesive one .. without
any discordancy ..
and the awareness comes to the right brain instantaneously without
thought .. without experience .. and reactions (if there are any left)
can come about half a second later .. or when some part tries to
think about (and thus judge) what has just happened.
This is the true "magic" ..
There is no .. "One greater than another" .. in what I write .. If someone
wasn't able to share with you the possibilities, then it would be very
difficult for you to know that they exist .. or that there is more ..
I moved into this "dimension of awareness" by choice .. spurred on by
the experiences I was having working with some of the trauma cases ..
I had to .. the work .. taking on the experiences of all of these people
was burning me out .. and I had to move beyond this experience
for my own survival ..
I had no one to guide me .. no one to show me the way .. for quite some
time .. it was a case of read the words of others who had gone there
before me .. until finally I was introduces to one who could show me
how to move beyond the sacrificial martyr of the experiential sympath.
So, I write to this list .. in the manner that I do .. not to make you wrong ..
but to share experience .. and perhaps offer .. to those that are ready,
a remembering that there is something more along the way ..
something more than what is familiar .. because it is the desire to
return to the familiar that keeps us trapped in the patterns of the past.
For me, it was a case of continually applying the mirror to myself
and looking at all of my reactions .. and finding what part of my
body reflected the experience ..
Kundalini can then be allowed to move through that area to dissolve
the negative vortex .. of which I have written before
Hope this helps ..
cw
At 02:35 PM 9/05/01, you wrote:
>Get not all of us have learned that far yet.... ive spent years building up
>others peoples shit only to learn just here lately that its not been
>mine.....oh and guess what :) a true empath is NOT simply sensitive to
>others feelings... only the ones who developed it...not the ones born with
>it :( it all mostly depends (from what ive learned so far) that how empathic
>a person is also has a large baring on what all is recieved and percieved by
>the person.
>(not to brag i promise) but i can and also know others who CAN wield enough
>energy to knock your entire thought train out of wack :( i have had my mind
>burnt and burnt others. theres a whole lot more to the tangles of the
>empathic mind then you give credit to. shoot i have experienced death at
>least 6 times this week in my mind at the hands of a shilled shaman so i
>wouldnt be afraid of death. but i will also admit i am more then just
>empathic .... i just havent learned enough about the rest of me yet to be
>able to accuratly describe it all...
>i wont argue you have a far better education then i do CW....please do not
>try and tell me that if i was truly an empath id have no reactions to your
>emotion... or the fact that you simply do not truly like anyone who doesnt
>respect the fact that you are smarter and much more worldly then the rest of
>us....i need not go on....
>empathy and empathic are 2 very different things..... empathy is having
>compassion for others feelings.... empathic is knowing their feelings before
>they say them, feeling the thoughts of another as they think them. learning
>empathy isnt learning to control empathic by design...
>now.... your a genius.... im shocked you didnt know this.
>find somone else to insult cw. you cant win with me. im not playing your
>game i am playing MY game :)
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