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Recieved: 2001/05/04 08:26
Subject: Re: [K-list] Once there was..
From: felix

On 2001/05/04 08:26, felix posted thus to the K-list:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mystress Angelique Serpent"
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [K-list] Once there was..

> At 03:28 AM 5/4/01, missy chicken wrote:
> >Truly written by an 'enlightened' person.
>
> thank you, Miss Chicken. It is an old Sufi story, I
think.. I did not
> make it up, I just repeated it from memory.

You are both probably wright, the story is in this shiny new
coffee-table Rumi book I paid too much for. Your memory is
very good in all but the most trivial details.
>
> Above the gates of Hell in Dante's story it says,
"abandon all hope, ye
> who enter here". Sounds scary, but it is actually sage
advice, for
> travelling the underworld. In that place, even hope shows
its dark
> duality.. as fear of the future and a desire for control.
Hope, takes you
> out of the Now.

Hope is used synonymously with the term "help" around here.
In either case, their abandonment might seem less than
volitional when entering Hell...which itself is the other
half of a duality and postures the notion that one acquires
both hope and help when heaven is entered...even more reason
to do both, nez pierce? What do you suppose would be the
balance point between the two?

felix


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