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Recieved: 2001/04/25 05:20
Subject: [K-list] limitations via religion
From: Murrkis
On 2001/04/25 05:20, Murrkis posted thus to the K-list:
Gads, I have the hardest time with that "reply to" function.
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:51:43 -0400
>To:SherriknobATnospamaol.com
>From:murrkisATnospammindspring.com (Nina and John Murrell-Kisner)
>Subject:limitations via religion
>
>>I am curious to what religion people on this list started out with??
>> Sherri
>
>Dear Sherri,
>
>I started out with no religion.
>
>However, my mother had enough for both of us, and some of it rubbed off. ;)
>
>It strikes me how subscription to a particular view of religion or
>spirituality can inhibit deep interaction among individuals.
>
>This was acted out quite painfully for me a while back.
>
>I had been having a slew of unusual experiences: vivid waking dreams,
>levitating during yoga, periods of time where my body seemed to be turning
>into electrical fields and currents, a full-body energy "flare" that
>resulted in severe disorientation, near hysteria, and infections, the
>experience of another woman's rape and murder during a neuromuscular
>massage, feeling completely alienated around all other humans (but quite
>clearly experiencing their pains and even picking up on their thoughts),
>seeking out solitude like a drug. There were 4 people who knew nearly the
>full extent of what was going on. 1 was afraid of it, 1 was threatened by
>it, 1 was a gifted supporter and challenger, and 1 (in a position of
>power, my physician) refused to recognize the big picture and discuss it.
>I was alternately highly entertained, scared shitless, and nearly
>convinced I must be losing my mind or about to be dashed to pieces by the
>universe.
>
>It was the need to talk these things through combined with this sense of
>the universal hand that led me to a psychiatrist who claimed experience
>with "spiritual emergence" (though the phrase "spiritual emergency" was
>interchangably used). This is where the confusion began.
>
>As an introduction, she asked me to speak my "spiritual background"... and
>by this, she quite clearly meant "religious background". I complied:
>raised Catholic, left the "faith" when I was 12, left the lifestyle as
>soon as I had autonomy. I was picking up on some disappointment in her
>that I didn't have gripes about Catholicism to discuss. Something about
>wanting to see panic attacks about visions of Krishna surfaced in my mind.
>She told me she didn't think I was having a spiritual emergency, but I was
>welcome to go on with the session.
>
>I should have left the session right then, but I stuck it through thinking
>it could still be helpful to have a "listener" or a trampoline for what I
>needed to voice. As it turned out, her "filter" was too powerful... she
>was looking for one thing, I wasn't providing it in the form she was
>seeking. That session turned into something where the counselor felt
>compelled to judge whether or not the client's "symptoms" fit the mold of
>the professional specialty... a professional specialty based on a narrow
>definition of what spiritual upheaval looks like.
>
>Geez, that took me hours to write. I'm getting out of this posting
>hyperspace while I still can...
>
>Good night, All.
>Nina
>
>
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