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Recieved: 2001/03/28 16:24
Subject: [K-list] Setting Time ; Group Flow
From: Murrkis


On 2001/03/28 16:24, Murrkis posted thus to the K-list:

Dear Cat,

>As Wim and Hillary wrote, I myself always felt yoga exercises were only some
>social response - a positioning statement that said " I am into this sort of
>alternative stuff - what I do outwardly is defining what I am doing inwardly"

What you do outwardly does alter what you do inwardly. :) That said, I have
witnessed what you are expressing... I live in a town full of people into
'alternative' stuff. Sometimes I wonder, but what use is judging their
interest?

As for me, yoga has been supported socially (I am not ostracized, as in
general, most everyone I am around is familiar with it), but I only once
felt the practice to be keyed to social acceptance or inclusivity... and
promptly sat myself down for a long talk. The bulk of my practice has been
quite hidden from everyone except very close friends who know my schedule
extremely well. Not many people know I was practicing that much.

Given that I've had some really beautiful moments while practicing yoga,
flow moments, as jo-jo describes... my view is that yoga may be a method of
access... but I also feel this is a very individual thing.

>Unfortunately, the self disciplined set times for this activity seemed very
>contrary to my K energy - K has a life of its own, no clocks or timers are
>involved, nor a conscious "what I am supposed to be doing" mental effort.
>Essentially, I only lasted through two classes way back when I was just old
>enough to drive, and my body is too cranky to go back since then.

:) Yes... I hear what you're saying. Oddly, my body for many months was
making it extremely easy for me to follow a disciplined practice... for
several months, I was waking up every single night (no matter when I went
to sleep) at 2:30 sharp. At that time, I didn't pursue the practice... I
tried to sleep through it (so I would wake up every hour after that). Then,
at one point I made a deal: that I would sleep until 4:00 and then get up
and do yoga. It worked. I began to wake up at 4:00 sharp every morning...
the interesting thing about this most recent change in my practice: I can't
seem to get enough sleep. Heh, by golly, I have no time for practice... I'm
too busy sleeping! ;)

>I do know in a high energy room with others, this state can come about
>easily, when you go into a meditative state while standing and give a few
>little jumps when you feel the euphoria, the jumps turn into a life of their
>own and you stay in the euphoric state, which reinforces that letting go, as
>it is so very pleasant to feel you are a foot off the ground. I would not
>advice without others present as you might crash into something -- you are
>totally "not present" while in this state.

Wow... fun with k, eh? :) I'll go find myself a crowd and give it a shot.

>This was my next significant step after those beautiful tears you described,
>that is why I thought you should hear my story...

Thanks so much for sharing your story, Cat.

peace and rest

Nina

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