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Recieved: 2001/03/18 09:10
Subject: FW: [K-list] Re: let go christopher
From: S.G.
On 2001/03/18 09:10, S.G. posted thus to the K-list:
-----Original Message-----
From: S.G. [mailto:pyyemanATnospampyyeman.screaming.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:01 PM
To: Sherman Buck
Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: let go christopher
Despite my comments on tolerance I aggree with this one Christopher. I
should point out that my comments should in no way be construed to be an
attempted coup de grace on your argument but rather an oberservation of your
technique.
You appear to shake off all help and advice like water off a ducks back.
Your not alone. The world has become like a battlefield for belief in one
idea over another and many of us fetishize our beliefs as precious like a
security blanket because we are not comfortable with change. In this day and
age it has become far more important to emphasize what you know as opposed
to what you dont and this prevents any progress being made. A form of social
camouflage no less. It is a self defeating behaviour when you realise that
if you dont admit what you dont know, you cannot learn anything new! The
whole "learning" process stops and becomes the defense of ones nuggets of
wisdom or what one thinks one knows. Intellectual vanity is one way
controversial ideas are flattered into acceptance with men of letters who
are unable to admit they dont really understand its implications.
We are all guilty of this at times and I am no exception
From the heart and the head
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: Sherman Buck [mailto:radicaloneATnospaminame.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:09 AM
To: K-list ; Christopher Wynter
Subject: [K-list] Re: let go christopher
Christopher,
i can see that you are an intelligent person. i also know from my own
experience how my dazzling display of intellect was a ruse. it is easy to
dismiss one or two or three people. but after awhile it becomes a flag.
whether or not you choose to see it is irrelevant. i do know that what is
avoided will continue to come around in various disguises until we get it.
it will continue to pound on the door till it either collapses or we do. it
is wisdom that yields to the realization that what i know now may not be the
truth later on with new information and experiences. how much truth will you
let in? the intellectual razor charades i have read so far says a lot. truth
stands on its own. it reminds me of why i chose to not attend grad school at
california institute of integral studies. i was told that i would need a two
year language degree to be able to go back and find the truth in the
original texts of the great authors, as if truth is found in some old text
and has to be found from someone else. truth is found within period. out of
the mouths of babes is an old truth as well. if it were true that all the
truths had been found, based on the significant library and research
collections in the world, then it would seem the world would be functional.
at best it is insane. it takes no intellect at all for one to realize how
sick the world is. there are all kinds of educated people with all sorts of
degrees, having written all sorts of books and journals, doing all sorts of
research, etc claiming to have figured it out. until the next time when some
other truth can be dealt with that was under the rug and someone claims we
found the truth. and yet no one has bothered to ask the obvious question.
how come no one ever admits they didnt know the truth the last time and that
what was believed really wasnt true to begin with. it is really a cover up
of one lie, at best giving an inch and recouping the loss to the ego self,
in hopes of rebuilding a new wall to hide behind. this is of course relevant
because this is how we have protected our exiled self. but this needs to be
looked at not from the eyes of the child we were when we had to create the
walls, but from the eyes of the adult we are now. to know that we are safe
enough to let the walls down and to heal the wounds we have. our authentic
self aches to be released from its prison, for that is what has happened to
it. it is buried under layers of stuff, in a place void of time and space,
waiting patiently for us to allow it to enter into our lives fully and
playfully. all one has to do is get silent within themselves for a long
enough of a time, to begin to face oneself, to begin to realize the obvious.
the problem is the mind is an incredibly illusive weaving appartus funded by
the opposite of the light to engage ourselves away from the light. we cannot
truly heal anyone until we have healed ourselves. the fact of the matter is
that most of the psychology field is dysfunctional at best. it is mostly
mind. figuratively speaking the mind is much like a dog chasing its tail.
let go. it is safe, it is time. nothing can harm spirit. you are not who you
think you are. when you are ready to let go you will be in for a significant
surprise. when you finally let go completely, it gets even more amazing. you
will see the world as it really is and you will know love, real love for the
first time. it is not something you do, give, or get. simply put it is just
being. one need do nothing to get love other than open to it. this is what
kundalini is. it is frightening to open to it, yet once you let it flow
through you unimpeded you will have let go and you will know it, feel it, it
is like an orgasm, only this is the state we are meant to live in on a
regular basis, bliss. but, one does have to work up to it. one cant run 440v
through a 110v system. let go. it doesnt change the world per say, but it
surely changes ones outlook. when you let go you will be caught.
"The Wizard"
Magical Happenings Inc.,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Wynter" <lifestreamsATnospambigpond.com>
To: <K-list >
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: [K-list] Mother .. the bigger picture .. part 1
> Well ..
>
> that thread certainly stirred up a lot of emotion and quite
> a bit of activity on the list ..
>
> But, rather than comment further, individually to each reply
> we received on list or off list, I would like to comment generally ..
>
> I do not disagree with anyone who posted ..
> for each has a response to the stimulus of the written word ..
> according to their own perspective ..
> where they are in their life ..
> where they have been and come from ..
> their own conditioned or learned responses
> etc etc etc ...
>
> A perspective or belief is, in many ways, a perceptual filter,
> a bit like a set of coloured glasses we wear which causes us to
> see the world around us .. tinted by the colour of the lens.
>
> The bigger picture can only be seen by taking the glasses off
> so there is no colouration in the field of vision.
>
> To see something from the perspective of another person
> requires one to find the exact tint of the glasses that the other
> person is wearing .. and look through that lens ..
>
> These glasses are worn both in front of the eyes .. and also
> in that part of the brain which translates the stimulus received ..
> a function of the right brain ..
> which acts unconsciously .. even before the left logical
> brain has formulated a clear thinking response.
> So, the reactions and responses from each to the stimulii
> that Fiona and I presented are not judged by us as being wrong ..
> but as part of the kaleidoscope that is human nature ...
>
> ___
>
> Everything contains vibrations and memories .. and that can include
> something as simple as a cup .. or a piece of furniture...
>
> These memories come from the awakening of something deep in
> the unconscious .. or they are the actual vibration carried in the object.
>
> There have been some I have worked with who have gone through
> all of the processes of getting someone "out of their lives" .. as in this
> case .. Mother .. but when I go visit them .. look around their house,
> I find a piece of furniture, a picture .. a trinket .. some present ..
> One lady I know took her mother's favourite cup .. and used
> it as her own favourite .. and wondered why she could not
> resolve her issues with mother ..
>
> All of this memorabilia carries with it .. unless consciously cleansed,
> the unconscious memories of association .. or the direct vibration
> of the other person.
>
> How many .. when they sever a relationship .. hold on to a memento ..
> and wonder why the other person is always there .. will not go away ..
>
> Have you ever walked into an antique shop .. and gone into the silence
> and allowed yourself to feel the ghosts .. the memories contained
> in the antiques ..
>
> If you take a 200 year old antique home .. did you ever think that someone
> may have been murdered with it .. or it may carry someone's blood ..
> and, unless consciously cleansed, you are carrying that vibration
> into your home.
>
> The same can be said for the clothes we wear .. the shoes we put on our
> feet .. manufactured by child labour in some sweat shop .. the last piece
> of underwear you put on may carry the vibration of a child who was
> being savagely beaten as s/he was a little slow in adding the final
stitch.
>
> Unless you we are conscious of this bigger picture, these are the
vibrations,
> the energies which we invite into our homes and our environment ..
>
> and in the case of our food .. into our body ..
>
> Have you ever tasted the difference between food that is just served up
> from a fast food chain .. and the same food that has been consciously
> cleansed ..
>
> This is part of the bigger picture ..
>
> What you eat is what is eating you ..
> What you wear is what is wearing you ..
>
> In whose shoes are you walking
> and on whose bed are you lying ..
> How many couples sleep together on a mattress that was handed
> down from a parent or grandparent ..
>
> How many couples make love on a mattress that contains the
> memories of joy .. or of the rape of the previous owner ..
>
> What is the legacy we hand on to our children
> when we help them get started in life with our
> mother's hand-me-downs ...
>
> >>> to be continued
>
> Christopher Wynter
>
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