To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/03/17 10:00
Subject: Re: [K-list] Dominance and victimhood.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/03/17 10:00, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
Yeah, OK Susan.. I don't disagree with the essence Christopher's
statements, I just don't aggree with his projection of the effect as
negative. Pecking orders and hierarchies are common to all social, herd
oriented beings in nature. Horses, chickens, gorillas, elephants, humans.
Nature's way. A team can accomplish more than a single person can. One ox
can pull 1000 pounds, 2 oxen can pull 5000 pounds. Hierarchies are
effective for organizing teams, from oxen to corporations.
Every attempt by humans to create a truly egalitarian society..
communist and democratic, has resulted in more elaborate and rigidly
structured pecking orders. It is just part of who we are, nature designed
us that way. What you resist, persists.. what you repress, comes up ugly..
At 06:38 PM 3/16/01, Christopher Wynter wrote:
>Energetically ..
>
>(or electromagnetically)
>
>in the act of surrender to another
> there is a complete subversion
> of the e-field of the recipient to the instigator ..
Hell yes, and blessed be! If someone truly surrenders to me, I am
empowered to clear out a lot of their emotional baggage karma junk quick
and easy. No grave digging required, no need to wallow in emotional mires.
Their stuff becomes mine and my energy field clears it. The effect is
miraculous! Permanent, as well.
Afterwards, I give them back to themselves, with a parting gift of
clear or white light filling the holes where the junk used to be. They take
a nice nap while their unconscious reorganises the mental filing cabinets
and restructures the energy field.. and they wake up feeling wonderful.
Receptivity.. AKA submission, is also a necessary requirement for
granting Shaktipat.
> resulting in complex personality switches
> over a period of the next three days ..
> when it gradually dissipates.
yup... typically, my clients feel the healing work continuing within
them, for 3 days to a week afterwards.. thus, I generally do not book
appointments closer than a week apart. Let the work complete itself, before
doing more.
Christopher are you trying to tell me you do not dominate your
clients? Then you are deluding yourself. In your post about St. Patrick,
you basically admit to emotionally manipulating the whole list to serve
your "good intentions". You think that is not dominance? LOL!! Of course it
is..
your
oh-so carefully worded and structured posts
to create exactly
the impact
you want
to create..
this
is not
manipulation?
Of course it is.
Manipulation
is dominance
is manipulation
is dominance.
Manipulation is about CONTROL.
CONTROL is about Dominance.
Those who were conscious enough to see thru it.. myself, Susan, Wim,
Percyval.. chose not to buy the soap, but some members were quite upset by
your statements and actions... your projections of victimhood.
Was it consensual? Hmm...
I would say,
it was
as consensual
as Fiona's
being victimized
by her mother.
;)
In the act of mutual orgasm, there is a merging
> of the personality fields with the dominant personality
> taking over the weaker ..
and in some of the members emotional reactions to your posts, was
also your projections taking over the weaker members... so is that a
consensual act of mutual orgasm, or
an emotional rape?
Of course,
you used
their emotional reactions
as validation
of your righteousness.......
A classic interrogation scene if ever I saw one. Also a classic
abuser dynamic.
The verbal abuser says
if you are upset
by my words
it is your fault
for being weak.
> a truly disempowering moment for
> the partner with the weaker self esteem.
>
> as the dominant partner becomes a vampire.
Karmic Vampire, that's me! LOL!!
You too Christopher.. you feed on stories of misery and pain. You
delight in provoking emotional reactions because they validate your
righteousness.. insisting that people would not react if there were no
buttons to be pushed.. but perhaps the emotional reaction comes from the
non consensual dominant manipulation and the victim energy projections?
Stab someone with a knife, sure they will react.. projections are no
different, as Fiona's victimhood posts so eloquently describe.
Perhaps the emotional reaction, is a reaction to untruth?
The truth makes me laugh, that is how I can recognise it. My dreams of
smashed egg and limp puppet kept me giggling all day.. but as Susan pointed
out.. there is no joy in your writing.. no laughter.
Lets take a poll.. how many members felt empowered by this thread
suggesting we are all victims of our DNA? How may felt disempowered,
frightened, nervous, afraid, self conscious?
How many felt disempowered by Fiona appearing to ask for help, and
then ruthlessly shooting down everyone who tried to help and offered
suggestions?
"Poor me" control strategy.. appears submissive, is actually
manipulation.. Vampiric attention getting behavior. Dominance. In BDSM we
call that "Topping from the bottom".
I know Christopher, you use the amount of mail you get, as validation..
but selling via fear tactics is the oldest trick in the book. Why is
insurance one of the biggest industries? Why do deodorant and shampoo ads
sell via promoting insecurity?
Worked for Hitler, worked for the Catholic church, worked for every
war mongering leader you claim to despise.. look in the mirror,
Christopher.. when you point a finger, three fingers point back at you. I
think your Shadow is trying to tell you something.. Jung defined the Shadow
as "everything we think we are not".
Same old same old: find a boogeyman, or create one, and persuade
people that they need you to be their hero. Your boogeymen change faces,
but they all seem to eventually wind up being Mother, in some way or
another. Blaming father, father church or bad old dad. Curse them for those
lousy genes they passed on.. all their fault, eh?
phhhhhht. Grow up.
>and in fact, there are methods available to
> measure and photograph this field transferrence.
So what?
>In the course of my work, I have learned not to work with a client who has
>had sexual relations with anyone in the 72 hours preceeding the session ..
>because I am not dealing with the client's unconscious but with the
>unconscious overlay of the sexual partner.
There is only One unconscious, the deepest level is the collective
consciousness which we all share.
I tell my slaves, "You cannot serve two Masters".. so do you require
your clients celibacy so that your own dominance will not have competition?
>Those who have multiple and frequent sexual partners
>over a period of time without taking the time for themselves to "balance
>out" show definable symptoms of MPD ..
Ah, the old label trick... ooga booga.. a favorite of psychologists...
and verbal abusers. Another manipulation. I wonder who Fiona would be, if
she were not married to you??
What is MPD, really..? I can talk to my unconscious, and to my inner
child. I split off parts of myself deliberately so that the different
aspects of my psyche can dialogue with each other.. or to kill eggs and
puppets. So, am I MPD?? Oooga booga, I'm not scared of labels.
Most everybody I know, behaves differently
at work
with their beloved
with their family
with a traffic cop
With their children
when they are alone.
ooga booga, symptoms of MPD..
phhhhhhhhht.. enough of this, I'm going to bed..
I'm serious about the poll, BTW.. looking forward to getting
responses.
Blessings.....
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