To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/03/16 19:57
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ejaculate .. the denegration of a gift of grace.
From: Wim Borsboom

Dear Percyval and Christopher

This is serious AND in good jest,

I keep being amazed at the integrity in views and insights that Christopher
displays, he's got some good good stuff but there is often a tiny little
something.. a tiny fish hook it seems, that he hasn't extracted yet, maybe
two hooks. (Sorry :-) Christopher that I say it that way, you are such a
gracious person that I know that you know what to do with my remark).

Percyval, I think you pointed the finger to the spot. Can we help each other
to extract that hook from Christopher's shoulder, that's where it picks at
him (Remember St. Peter used to be a fisherman). I used to think it was a
chip on his shoulder but it is a little fish hook, gently now... pErcyval
!!!, don't yank it out, you rascal, you don't need the delight of
Christopher squirming.

In earnest, Percyval I think you've got it right, not to diminish the value
of many other points that Christopher brings up.

Love, Wim

> > a male or female who seeks the ejaculate from his/her partner is,
> > IMO, denying the female her own self-realisation ..
> > an act of "priestly dominance"
>
> i can hardly believe this is coming from you, Christpher... it almost
> sounds like what a Roman Catholic priest would say...
>
> in my experience,a woman who is having an ejaculatory orgasm seems to be
> completely freeing her body to flow where its own inclination to
> greatest ecsatasy would take it... and a woman can certainly do it
> herself without "priestly dominance"... although i have found that a
> helping hand (heheheheee) can be very much appreciated...
>
> the joy in sharing in a shower of this magical delight is so beautiful,
> that it is one of this world's great gifts to lovers... this is not to
> say that your comment: "The female orgasm when directed inwardly is a
> true gift of grace .. far greater than a spontaneous K experience .. and
> often initially experienced as a 'rapture' " is also pointing towards
> one of the great gifts of life... but why deny the enjoyment of flowing
> both in and out? maybe on alternate days with a two way spurt on
> sundays? *grin*

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