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Recieved: 2001/03/16 06:10
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Fiona's Mother
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2001/03/16 06:10, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
At 11:24 PM 16/03/01, you wrote:
>There is always a choice, even if a small choice, always a choice.
Only in the conscious mind. The subconscious and unconscious
has already made a choice even before the left brain logical
conscious mind is aware of that choice.
>There are some on this list who know of my past and how I sufferred.
>I rarely talk about it unless it is drawn out of me. But that is so
>far away it seems like I am a totally different person now. And I am.
>If I wanted to, I would have just as much right to claim how my
>maternal line made people suffer horrendously.
When the memories are released from the subconscious and
unconscious - when the collapsed electromagnetic fields within the
cells of the physical body are allowed to expand and be restored,
then cellular reproduction sees that the damage will be repaired.
If the pain and trauma is held in denial in the cellular structure of the
body, then mutation of the cellular reproduction will take place
and eventually, cancer IS the end result. These mutations eventually
find their way into the genes in the DNA and the mitochondria in the
mtDNA to be passed on to the grandchildren.
This has been scientifically proven
It is this collapsed magnetic field within the cellular structure in the
muscles and fibres which results in pain.
>If it is an encoded genetic program then it will destroy the third
>generation females and then there is no choice and no hope for you.
As I have already written .. the process IS REVERSIBLE -
IF all of the reactions are applied first to the self - and the body becomes
a safe place to be. What caused the mutation in the first place is denial.
Unconditional acceptance of self - and compassion to the self WILL
see the repair and reversal of the damage.
I have seen proof of this with a number of my clients - including one
who had cancer in 90% of her body who is now in complete remission -
and we worked with the doctors using electromagnetics to release
the emotional memories stored in the tumours.
>The sentence has been determined and will be executed. Why even write
>about your situation...there is no hope to ever leave the cage of
>destruction. The work to empower others is all a vanity for cruelty
>and suffering can not be transcended. This despair drips from all
>your posts you have written and chills my soul when I read your
>words.
If we did not write what we wrote, then you would not have reacted. The
fact that you have reacted shows that, down in your subconscious and
unconscious - in the cellular memories of your body -
no matter what your mind thinks you have done, these memories
are still running you as though You are still in the experience. Until
this is cleared, like the coral reef, your present is built on layers of
corpses of the past .. and your every reaction is based on preconditioning.
You cannot run away - because these memories are with you in your
body - and I dare to say that it is the realisation of this which has caused
you to reply here as you have.
I do understand - it has taken me a long time - 14 years in fact - to clear
the debris from my own body - but then, I had to find my own way through
largely uncharted ground.
>I don't want to read about your problems if you think your end is
>pre-ordained. What or whom does that serve unless to elicit pity from
>the readers. I do not pity.
Not even your self .. are you saying that you have no compassion
for the inner child in you ..? Because, until you first have compassion
for your self, then you can NEVER hear another through their own
expression without placing a judgement on what you hear .. and the
other person will pick up on your judgement - even if it is unspoken -
and shut up like a clam.
>Why have classes, why teach, why contribute to the life of others,
>why exist for your end is pre-destined. Why fight...why not just curl
>up and die now for your life has no meaning, no power, no
>contribution for your genes have won.
You can change your genes - this is the object of my work.
If a mental attitude or experience has got your genes to the state
they are in now - what do you think will happen if, conscious of this,
you choose to change the programming of your genes - much like
reformatting the hard drive of your computer when it crashes all of
the time because of program conflicts.
>Kill us all who carry such codes for the human spirit no longer can
>triumph.
>
>Regardless of what researchers say, Fiona, you and Christopher have
>finally found the trap of elevating the power of genes over the power
>of Spirit and transformation.
ABSOLUTELY - the words of "Spirit" are a myth designed to offer false
hope for the victims .. and keep most of the religions and false guru's
in pocket money. The rich get rich and the poor get poorer.
>Maybe I don't understand.
>Maybe I am not as evolved or well researched as you and Christopher.
>Maybe I am blind.
No Susan - just frightened, like I was once .. like Fiona was also ..
like a number of people who have walked down this path with us ..
It's a real scary thing when all of the things we have been taught to believe
have doubt - real doubt cast upon them. I do not judge you .. if I did, I
would
be judging myself - and my work.
For thousands of years people have transferred their eternal salvation onto
some deity .. out of fear .. and now, this genetic programming is part of most
people. When someone (like Fiona or myself) turns around and says
"First you have a belief
then the belief has you"
the end result is naturally that you end up feeling "had"
>But if I am then my life has no meaning and there is no hope for
>anyone to transcend their biology. This means I am doomed and damned
>to live the rest of my life in gene hell.
That sounds very much like a deeply repressed "Catholic Gene" speaking -
the triggering of the memory of the indoctrination of eternal hell and
damnation .. who was it taught that ..
From where in your idealogy did this reaction come -- not just from idle
words, Susan .. but from some deeply seated and held belief in your
physical body which you have kept repressed .. otherwise you would not
have written those words.
>Maybe this is why...in the several years I have been reading the
>posts of you and Christopher...I have never felt one drop of joy.
>(my own judgment but then most of my life has been lived with the
>absence of joy). Doesn't seem you have found a reason to be joyful.
Well .. I can tell you Susan, that since I got to the bottom of this shit,
in sharing their self discoveries with others, and watching the outcome
for those with whom I have worked, I have shared more joy than I could
ever have imagined possible ..
and I am continually humbled and in awe
at what some of my clients share with me ..
and the people on my own list ..
who in sharing their own personal experiences
have taught the both of us so much .. and confirmed
for us many things we suspected but could never prove.
> > Not in my family ..
>That used to be my favorite mantra for years, ringing down the
>maternal line to make sense of senseless cruelty. Who speaks these
>words? You, the essential You, or what you call your genes?
Again .. the Brain program researches show that what we speak,
how we react, comes from the sub/unconscious mind.
Guess what - the cells that make up the brain started out in the same
way as every other cell in your body .. and carry the same memories ..
The only reason the past is never forgotten .. in spite of the fact
that every cell in the body is replaced every 7 years at least ..
is because of the mantra
"I will never forget what you have done to me"!
>Much love,
>Susan
Christopher Wynter
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