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Recieved: 2001/03/06 23:02
Subject: [K-list] Pure and Simple
From: Fiona and Christopher


On 2001/03/06 23:02, Fiona and Christopher posted thus to the K-list:

Have you ever been sitting quietly somewhere and suddenly
come back to the realisation that time has passed and you
don't know where you've been ..?

Nor have you any idea of what went on in that time .. ?

Nor were you aware of your own breath
 nor your own heartbeat ...

Yet you were fully awake and conscious ...
 not asleep nor unconscious ...

This is the Absolute ..
 this is the spinning stillness
 of the void/vastness/no-thing ..

It is beyond the experience of OM ..
 because OM is the echo of the first manifestation

For there to be Awareness, pure or otherwise, there has
to be a separation .. something has to be aware of ..
there has to be a subject and object .. the entity who is aware
and the thing that one is aware of. ..

Similarly, for there to be the experience of Bliss, there has
to be a separation .. the observer, the act of observation and
that which is observed.

You can never say "I have experienced pure bliss" or "I have
experienced pure awareness", because such statements
imply observation comparison and interpretation .. based
on a learned belief or conditioned response
 which occupies both time and space.

That which is sometimes misnamed "awareness" or "bliss"
is a consciousness NOT aware of itself .. in other words, it is
beyond time and space and interpretation.

It is a state of "NO THING" .. for to be aware of any "THING"
requires a separation ..

To label something as "Divine" or otherwise implies a
comparison of less than and greater than so to be aware
of one's self as divine is to separate that part from the rest.

Divine cannot be separated from not divine except in your
mind .. and the point of the separation is relative to your
mind's understanding or interpretation of what may or may
not be "Divine"

Therefore, one's Divine-ness is an ego trip.

It is the teaching of these idealogies .. these concepts of
"Divine Awareness", "Bliss" etc that causes the Western
mind to start seeking ..

because some "ideal" is painted which has got to be better
than that which the seeker is presently experiencing ..
otherwise the seeker would not be bothered seeking.

The Consciousness of Atman .. Brahmin .. whatever name
you want to describe it is the consciousness of the
undifferentiated no thing ..

I know that I have been in that space and that I have walked
between these worlds .. but I can NEVER say that I have
experienced these states .. who is the I who experienced them.

What I can say that I have experienced is an awareness which
is so pure that there is no interpretation placed .. and there
is no lasting sensual impression or feeling ..

This is taught in the Tao .. which describes the art of
 "looking at nothing and seeing everything"
 "listening to nothing and hearing everything"

 the point of this exercise being that the moment attention
 becomes fixed on any point of time or space,
 consciousness changes from 5D to 3D awareness ..

Descending into Brahmin, Atman, the Void, the Absolute ..
is the next level of the conscious mind holding on to some idea
of its identity as separate ..
 there is no-thing to see and no-thing to hear.

It is an accepting .. and a letting go of control ..
 it is not surrender in the truest sense of the word
 because there is NO-THING to surrender to

 and thus it cannot be sought.

This is moving beyond duality.

Anything in duality can be called illusion,
because its experience is a subjective comparison
dependant on observation comparison and interpretation ..
 based on a learned belief or conditioned response
which occupies both time and space.

Beyond duality lies the silence.

CW

For
 "My God is greater than your God"
read
 "My Ego is greater than your Ego"

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