To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/03/04 19:32
Subject: Re: [K-list] need some positive born of experience
From: Christopher Wynter

There is night and there is day ..
  day is not attached to day
   and night is not attached to night

  each gives way to the other as surely as the
  incoming tide gives way to the outgoing tide

  just as surely as the in-breath
  gives away to the out breath

  neither has any attachment ..

And, so, you have a choice.

Yesterday you had a feeling
  and today, yesterday's feeling
   gave way to todays feeling

Did you have the feeling
  or does the feeling has you.

The Compassionate Buddha recognises and honours
  the tides and the times as the passing cycles of nature
   and does not judge.

The incoming tide experiences in-flow
The out going tide experiences out-flow

  At the point in between,
  there is full or there is empty.

If you hold onto empty, there can be no in-flow
  and no full ..

It is, of course your choice ..
  but if you hold on to empty,
  then empty will have you ..

The experiences of full and empty, like other patterns
  flow daily through our lives ..

  just as the experience you are now having
  you have had before .. and before that ..

If you find the origin of holding on to death as an outcome
  then empty can experience in-flow ..
  and you can experience the flow of the Tao

   This is my experience

CW

At 12:25 PM 5/03/01, you wrote:
>I am not in the habit of reaching out as my own subject, but I am going to at
>this point.
>
>I've experienced many of the things that are known as common in the kundalini
>experience. Actually I have worked hard on my particular path for many years
>to bring all this about. I've not completed. I still have the final step to
>do (plus some). I would call myself "partially awake".
>
>The rest of the kundalini manifestations of course continue as they do. I
>find myself worried when they aren't happening for any length of time, and
>exhausted etc.. when they do LOL. Its also very hard, living in the real
>world, supporting oneself alone ( I am a single female) when everything you
>are about is the spiritual path..mostly its hard because with these kinds of
>results now, I am in constant fear they will get out of hand ( as they have
>at times) and prevent work for a few days or more, which I can't afford to
>happen, as my survival depends on my job.
>
>The surges of energy and the subtle body movements are the hardest, since the
>first I cannot control and the second is just well, sort of like being sea
>sick after awhile lol. And of course, one has to pretend that one is dead,
>like the rest of the people around.
>
>Having a difficult time of it sometimes. Looking for any positive comments
>about the whole process from anyone on the list, as this is one of those days
>I just feel like jumping into my own grave.

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