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Recieved: 2001/03/01 06:01
Subject: Subject: RE: [K-list] Question to Karmokar & Harsha
From: Ganga Karmokar
On 2001/03/01 06:01, Ganga Karmokar posted thus to the K-list:
Subject: RE: [K-list] Question to Karmokar & Harsha
-Namaste -
G:This is the 3rd time attempting to post your answer... But yes all
that i speak of is from Direct experience... otherwise it is not
known but something merely known about.... My kundalini experience is
posted online... it is a brief version... much more phenomena etc.
happened during the journey....
H:"Reality is Always Here and Now. It is not found at some point in
the
future when Shakti has Merged in Its Source. It Is only Recognized
then to be so. Reality of the Self is never absent. It cannot be
absent in this very moment. It is this very moment that contains
Infinity. One is not in the Now! One Is the Now!
There is nothing to enter or leave! If one thinks in such a way, one
should reflect on what is it that "enters" again? What does
it "enter"?"
G: While it is true what Harsha says from a philosophical standpoint
it is only realized directly either in Nirvakalpa Samadhi or when the
Kundalini Culminates... until then it is covered over with your
illusions of ego self.... when the ego shatters during so-called
realization the Truth is There Self Evident.... when there is no
longer a subject or object and the 5 senses have been transcended
then the ego death occurrs if you surrender completely.... at that
time you disolve into that Awareness which is Pure Consciousness...
Abstract Intellingence... the Constant which is ever still.... the
Pregnant Void... and the illusions of i and self are forever
broken... and maya is seen for the dreamstate that it is... mind
created and generated....
From that moment simply you are not... Maya is only a ripple on the
surface of Consciousness... and you are from that point merged in the
deep of Sat*Chit*Anand or Bliss - Truth (Existance) - And
Consciousness beyond constructs and conditionings.....
Through the process of Self introspection you can come to where the
illusions shatter....
when i spoke of entering once again into life you do not forever sit
in Nirvakalpa Samadhi beyond the 5 senses.... you are from then
resting in Turiya.... and you merge once again into the maya realm
beyond the illusions.... ever aware of the Constant Essense and
Emptiness of Being and no longer the illusion of ego body self....
and the flow of existance plays on..... yet you are unconcerned with
the happenings.... what comes comes... what goes goes... where you
are you are.... it matters not whether in form or out of form for
form in the end is only a play of mind......
Love and Blessings Sat*Chit*Anand Shanti-Shanti-Shanti OM
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Is it implied in this, that the Kundalini practices and its process
are not valid/true or that they are simply not necessary or that they
are false since it involves time/future goal ?
Kind regards
jb.
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The Kundalini Yoga and other spiritual practices that people engage
in are
valid and true and according to their destined path. There is no
universal
rule on these matters. The Shakti rises spontaneously for some due to
various influences. Shakti is the power of Self. It is the energy of
motion
and movement and responsible for Super conscious states and Samadhis.
When
drawn to Its Source, It merges with That. Self Realization is Knowing
One Is
That, That is the Self. Scriptures say "That Thou Are"! That is the
meaning.
You are the Self. One Is The Self It Self.
I speak both from experience and from the teachings of Sri Ramana
Maharshi.
I have found the confirmation of my experience and understanding in
the
teachings of the Sage of Arunachala.
Love
Harsha
DISCLAIMER!
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