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Recieved: 2001/01/31 01:07
Subject: Re: [K-list] God - words and their meanings .. Kalipadma
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2001/01/31 01:07, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
The origins of Sanskrit go back to the first attempts to put the original
Vedic Hymns into a hieroglyph .. about 6000 BCE
which is a little before the Sufis ..
There are similar glyphs which appear in the Sumerian which is
archeologically dated about 6000BC
The Katapayadhi first appeared about 400CE
and the alternative or "more modern"
Aryabhata appeared about 500CE
The Deva-Nagari script has a different shape again
and a different symbolic interpretation
The glyphs have a totally different vibration in the four codes ...
and a different numerical representation.
There are also differences in the codes for Northern and
Southern India .. so it would depend where the Hindu's
came from that you spoke to ..
What I am referring to is the code handed down
from the original Vedic hymns ..
Ganesh does not appear in the earliest versions of the Rig Veda ..
If you place clockwise and counterclockwise spirals one atop the
other, you will find the shapes of infinite hearts from point to infinity
in the overlay ... (not computer generated spirals but naturally
occurring ones ... especially fossilised ..
and yes, this puts an even more different twist
on some of the icons ...
CW
At 06:01 PM 31/01/01, you wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:46:11 +1100 Christopher Wynter <anundaATnospamone.net.au>
>writes:
> >
> > Even the Sanskrit symbol for the primordial vibration
> > has been corrupted in its transliteration .. it started off
> > as the first separation from wholeness .. the < o > being
> > resonant with the energy of immutable fire in the Heart
> > Centre.
>
>Anahata (the Heart Center/Chakra) is represented by a six-pointed star
>within a circle. Not by a Valentine heart.
> > As OM evolved, the broken heart (the piece off the bottom)
> > was placed behind the 3 in the form of the crescent moon
> > (a partial reflection of the light of wholeness .. behind .. where
> > it
> > cannot be seen ..) and then a < * > was placed in the crescent
> > to stop it ever returning to wholeness ..
> >
> > Thus the modern OM is the symbol of separation barred from
> > ever returning to wholeness.
>
>
>The Hindus I've spoken to say that the glyph for AUM is a stylized
>portrait of Ganesha. The three-shape is his large head above his larger
>tummy, the extension is his trunk, and the crescent and dot are his full
>and broken tusks. Ganesha is the God of (Good) Beginnings, and the sound
>of AUM was the first thing to exist -- Ganesha before he had a body.
>
>The heart shape originated in the West, and it's unlikely that Hindus saw
>it before the Sufis (mystical Moslems) entered India after the Mogul
>invasion. (I'm not sure when the Sufis adopted the winged heart as their
>symbol.)
>
>And of course, even in Europe, the heart (symbol or organ) as seat of the
>emotions is rather late. The Romans used the heart-shape to symbolize
>Lust. They presented it upside down (by our standards). It was a
>stylized portrait of the testicles.
>
>Puts a different twist on all those icons of the Sacred Heart of Jesus,
>don't it?
>
>-- Kalipadma
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