To: K-list
Recieved: 2001/01/31 01:02
Subject: Re: [K-list] letters g
From: Kalipadma
On 2001/01/31 01:02, Kalipadma posted thus to the K-list:
Eeeek! Cleo-kitty, you are confusing a wide variety of very different
languages.
I don't have time to dig out my Sanskrit grammar, but the Sanskrit
language has a particular order to its letters. And the letters are
syllabic -- by which I mean each letter is either a vowel, or a consonent
and a vowel. Hindus often argue that the first sound a baby makes is MA!
Even in Sanskrit, it means Mother.
The four letters <usually> marked on the crucifix are not Yod-He-Vov-He
("...and God is just a four-letter word..."). They are Latin letters
I-N-R-I, for Iesus Nazarene, Rex Iudeum (or something very like that --
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.) When I was a kid I was told it
stood for "I'm Nailed Right In..."
Kabballists play with all sorts of meanings of Yod-He-Vov-He; four
elements, four directions, etc. and one interpretation is the conjoining
of Mother and Father. These ARE the consonents of the Unspeakable Name,
however (Hebrew does not write vowels, except in practice forms for
students). The usual attempt to pronounce it comes out something like
Yehovah. I don't know any of the usual names of God that begin with
"He." If your mother's friend has been studying for so long, I can't
believe that she wouldn't know that Hebrew is read from right to left.
If she read it like English, from left to right, the four letters would
begin with He.
I sincerely doubt that even if there were an unknown God-name beginning
with "He," that it would be interpreted as the English word He (male
pronoun). Weren't the first printed Bibles in Europe done by Gutenberg?
What does "He" mean in German?
-- Kalipadma
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:11:44 EST CLEOCATRAsATnospamaol.com writes:
> Dear Chris,
>
> I cant remember the resident liguist's order of letters... it seems
> to me it
> was quite different from your order...
>
> the sound of "g" and "ahh" were first, and is usually the first for
> a baby,
> too... but that is all I can remember.
>
> Would that make even more sense, though?
>
> Yhvh is clearly marked on the major sized crucifix, the spelling of
> the
> "unspeakable" name for God, isnt it? My mentor mother has a friend
> who has
> spent the last 30 years studying Hebrew and Armaic and has read back
> as far
> as she can go on all the earlier writings (versions) of the
> bible...she tells
> me we will never see the earliest versions in the Vatican library...
> She
> networks with a worldwide clan to gain access to what earlier
> versions are
> available as her quest, she said that Yhvh originally meant "The He
> and the
> She" and that the sound of the beginning of the unspeakable name
> starts with
> "HE" as in the sound Hello... and it was common to refer to it in
> that way,
> as it was the common nickname for the long version which no one was
> allowed
> to speak... that this is where it originated in the Christian Bible
> to turn
> the sound HE into "He", masculine... either a little boo boo in
> translation from religious notes or purposeful bias....
>
> I really believe her though, since she has devoted half her life to
> this quest...
>
> Cat
>
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