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Recieved: 2001/01/30 17:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Both Pleasure and Pain are symptoms of Dis-ease - Valerie
From: LK

thank you for writing this Nancy. Over 1 in 3 women in this country is
raped. That number is much higher in other countries. But i guarantee you
that the last thing on a woman's conscious or unconscious mind (with a
history of victimhood or not) is in any way asking to be raped.

>From: "Nancy" <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
>To: <K-list >
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Both Pleasure and Pain are symptoms of Dis-ease -
>Valerie
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:42:57 -0700
>
>From: Christopher Wynter <anundaATnospamone.net.au

> > If we are conscious, we either will not place ourselves on the street at
> > the precise time the potential truck, rapist or basher is there ..
> > or we will walk down the street with inpunity.
>
>Dear Christopher,
>
>I understand the concept of creating our own reality. However, I think that
>sometimes people have a tendency to take this concept too far.
>
>I don't think that people who are raped are saying, "Please rape me." True,
>someone might be walking down the street with her head hanging, not paying
>attention to her environment, carrying many bags. She is making choices
>that
>are taking her down a path. So, yes, she is creating that reality. This
>does
>not mean that she has consciously or unconsciously decided to be raped.
>
>I think choices equal consequences. Patterns have an equal and opposite
>reactions. A submissive, victim-like woman might face a reaction of being
>raped. Now does that make it her "fault"? No! She didn't ask to be raped.
>She made some choices which put her in that place and time where she was
>available as a victim.
>
>I don't think that either extreme of the responsibility view is accurate.
>Yes, we create our own reality. Yes, shit happens. I believe the truth is a
>combination of both. I think truth lies in the paradox of opposites.
>
> > Nothing is random .. for the reasons outlined above.
>
>I think the randomness comes in because of our free will. I may have
>planned
>this life to be a great doctor. Now along the way, I meet a wonderful man
>who loves to travel and he takes me around the world to experience
>different
>cultures. This takes me off my doctor path. Free will can over ride all
>prior plans. It's my choice.
>
>Nancy
>

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