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Recieved: 2001/01/29 07:11
Subject: Re: [K-list] Both Pleasure and Pain are symptoms of Dis-ease - Mystress
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent

At 03:36 AM 1/28/01, Christopher Wynter wrote:
>Even the Shaman who "tunes in to" or becomes the plant or the animal
>uses his own body as a means of translation into human terms for
>what he experiences.

    Well, the same could be applied to other humans.. we see everything
through our own filters.. So is your experience of P&P the same as mine?
What if it is not? I know that it likely is not.. because I know a lot of
masochists.. :)

>What if there is no thought of this and no projection of these "ideas"
>on the child .. will the red hot coal still hurt the child and burn his/her
>flesh ..?

Pic of me firewalking on my website.. :)
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/spirit.htm

> so much so that you may not have experienced the shedding of
> tears of joy ..?

    I have.. they are lovely..

>This is another example conditioned belief.

It is also conditioned belief that a spanking will hurt.. but I know
folks who find bliss in it.. :) Bliss, in needles through the flesh, cane
marks and bruises.. I found that the key, is *gratitude*. Try it for yourself.

    Pinch your arm, while holding your breath and thinking "No, no, no"..
Let go. Feel the spot you pinched.
    Pinch your arm again, next to the spot you pinched before, while
breathing steadily and thinking "Thank you, thank you, thank you". Let go.
Feel the spot.
    You will find you can pinch much harder, than when you are in a state
of resistance, without it hurting, and the place that was pinched won't be
sore like the first pinch.. it will feel kind of warm and tingly. Nice.
    Gratitude flips the endorphin switch in the brain. Pleasure.
    Resistance flips the "fight or flight" reaction. Adrenaline, stress. Pain.

Blessings!

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