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Recieved: 2001/01/20 15:49
Subject: Re: [K-list] hmmmmmm ....
From: Carol C.
On 2001/01/20 15:49, Carol C. posted thus to the K-list:
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Wynter <anundaATnospamone.net.au>
To: <kundalini-gatewayATnospamegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] hmmmmmm ....
> At 08:26 AM 21/01/01, you wrote:
> >Did I miss something here? Originally we were talking about all the
> >JUDGEMENTS in regard to Jesus. As in .... Jesus was being JUDGED by
certain
> >phrases taken out of context from the Bible. As you yourself have said:
> >"Seek not to judge, lest ye be judged.. Let the one who is without sin,
cast
> >the first stone." Does this not also apply to judging Jesus?
> Yes Kathy,
>
> you did miss something here ..
>
> It is called the bottom line .. which was ..
It's a funny thing ..
but Jesus never said any of the things you (and others) say he said ..
If you check out the "History of Language" you will find that the words
attributed to him
were not even thought of then ...
So who is this collective thought-form Jesus
you are putting words into the mouth of ..?
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Here is your own quote back that you sent me:
"Seek not to judge, lest ye be judged.. Let the one who is without sin, cast
the first stone."
These words are attributed to Jesus.
So you may also be quoting a collective thought-form. As to the words used
in scriptures; are they not translations made many centuries after the
original words were written? I do not know. But this may explain the use of
words that did not exist at the time of Christ. There is also a modern day
translation of the Bible that contains words and language of the present
day.
When I first began reading scriptures at a young age they were only words
that I tried to understand. But later, especially after studying the Gita,
and Yogananda , and works written by other Yogis, the words of scripture
became understandable. Somehow they ceased to be words, but rather
Spiritual essence. And I came to love the beauty of the man Jesus who
conveyed the same wisdom I had found in the Gita. I came to see the same
Spiritual essence in all religions, inspite of the use of different words.
From that I came to realize there are Spiritual truths and it does not
matter who conveys them. It is all Spirit. Spiritual essence is conveyed.
The stories surrrounding the words of spiritual essence are not important to
me. Even if Jesus did not exist I honour and love the essence conveyed and
the spirit that conveyed it. Does it matter who conveyed it? All is Spirit.
A name is nothing. I honour the spirit of the person that conveyed these
truths.
The teachings of Jesus are basically Judaism, but he added a few things such
as Love, Forgiveness, and Compassion.. This was an important addition to the
truths found in Judaism. What others did with his teachings is unimportant.
The teachings still stand as a signpost along the way for seekers in this
world, as do all spiritual essence contained in other religions. These
teachings at least lead to the door, and after that it is up to the
individual to find the way through the door to something higher.
I am not bothered by some saying that Jesus did not exist. I honour the
spiritual essence associated with his words, no matter where that essence
originated in this world. It is the spiritual essemce I love and honour.
Blessings and Love, Carol
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