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Recieved: 2001/01/09 01:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Is Evolution Catching?
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/01/09 01:54, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 05:13 PM 1/8/01, Samantha Atkins wrote:
>Mystress,
>
>What I said about science is the way science is structured. It has
>nothing to do with what I believe. That that structure rest on things
>that cannot be subjected to the methods of science does of course raise
>some really good questions.
Yep.
>Believe me I do ask God-dess, guru, DNA, ascended masters and anything
>else I've ever heard of for help resolving my doubts. Over and over and
>over again. I don't get very clear answers.
Because they cannot surrender for you... and giving you more reasons
just gets you stuck deeper in reasons.
>Spankings happily accepted.... Polls are irrelevant.
>
>I have tried just believing. It does not dependably result in miracles
>in my experience.
No, it does not.. you have to align belief with Dharma.. otherwise it
makes for Karma.. be careful what you pray for stuff.. be glad it does not
always work.
> It is a funny kind of superior way of finding truth
>(superior to reason and such) that only works sometimes and if it
>doesn't work the person attempting to employ/trust it takes all the
>blame.
Why does there need to be blame?
> If it works then it is the power of God-dess, K or whatever. If
>it doesn't work then it is all the fault of the practitioner. Science
>is a lot cleaner than that.
not that I have noticed.. Scientists still blame the practitioner if
the experiment fails. Scientists are always questioning other scientists
methodology. Nor do scientists agree with each other.
I don't believe that that is wrong to do. For me at least it
>seems to act as necessary counter-balance.
Counter balance, to what?
There was admittely some energy that was just my own shit in the initial
>post.
Yes.
> I have a great fear of going into spiritual stuff too deeply and
>loosing all grounding. Before I have noticed that I tend to open too
>far and become quite over-credulous and believing of even utterly
>bizarre and impossibly contradictory things.
I like to believe 7 impossible things before breakfast.. and surrender
them all, before lunch.
> Being spiritual does not
>require becoming a total air-head, does it?
Yes. Empty so that you can be filled with grace. Zen and the art of
anything, starts with an empty mind.. then the body acts, with perfection.
Reason is busy telling you reasons why not, and if you believe them, you
are dead in the water. Stuck like you are stuck, now.
> But that was what I found
>myself doing. So I seek to keep some grounding. When too much of it
>seems to be slipping too fast I can at times start clawing to regain
>some balance.
:) I noticed..
>Nor is the "shit" just mine.
No, it is it just yours. Taking responsibility for it, gives you power
to do something about it. Giving the responsibility to Goddess, means She
will do.. more than you, ever could.
> It is very human and universal. Saying we
>should just get over it and throw our minds overboard and let whatever
>comes just come and all will be well isn't a message that resonates with
>me or that I think would be helpful for most. Countless centuries of
>much of the world believing that was the way to do things if you really
>wanted Truth (or alternately that someone else had already done so and
>you should just take their word for it) and a few doing it, by all
>reports did not greatly improve the race. Much of that time was full of
>a lot of misery and a short and quite brutish existence.
Every step, was needed on the path to bring us here.
> So, even
>historically, I can't honestly see that the mystic way of just total
>surrender is enough. The ones that have surrendered utterly haven't
>advanced human knowledge and human living conditions nearly so much as
>those damn scientists with their logic and their questioning.
LOL!! Wrong!
All great inventions were the result of Divine inspiration! Many were
"accidents!" Like penicillin. Goddess did it! Dropped a spore into the
petri dish, dropped an apple on Newton's head.. DNA itself, the double
helix was discovered, in a dream! ( Crick dreaming a dream of 2 serpents
entwining, if I remember the story correctly..:) :) heh heh heh.. )
Edison was a dreamer, airhead ADD poster boy who forgot to collect his
profits because he was so busy playing with his new inspirations. Sure, he
worked hard too.. but he did not think of it, as work, and he did not think
of it as failure if it did not work. He said, I have discovered 10,000 ways
*not* to make a light bulb! He was not sitting in a puddle eating worms
complaining because the first 10000 miracles failed. Madam Curie didn't
B*tch when the radium messed up the photo plate.. Accidents!! Brilliant
fucking accidents.. in a universe where there are no "accidents". Goddess
has it handled.
Usually these insights come, when the scientists are at the end of
their rope and ready to give up! Surrender! So, why not put the surrender
part first, and skip the sweat and struggle? Let the Divine Inspiration
flow unhindered.
Einstein pretended to be a photon, and came up with E-MC2, and said,
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." One of the greatest minds
of our time is telling you that he had to *throw away* reason and trust
imagination! He had to toss out everything that was "known" about the
nature of the universe, everything that came before, in order to see it
truly. He had to become empty, in order to be filled. Air-head, wore
mismatched socks and could not even remember his own phone number because
he didn't want his brain cluttered with junk.
You don't believe me.. do you believe Einstein?
Science is not so innocent.. the empty minded Holy men did not create
the environmental disasters, the pollution and holes in the ozone that you
want to fix. Nor was Gandhi a slouch when it came to social change. Mother
Theresa didn't sit on her ass under the Boddhi tree..
>So I believe a balance is needed. I am not free just to go blissfully
>diving into Divine Mother's arms
Yeah, you are.. you cannot do the work you came to do, until you do.
You think your tiny weenie ego brain can change the world? Trade it in for
a more powerful force.. Einstein did.. he was a very spiritual man. What
makes you so special, that you are too good for that?
There is your spanking you requested..
>and ignore whether the rest of the
>planet goes to hell in a handbasket or not. It is not in my nature. I
>don't think it is why I am here.
If it is Goddess will for you to change the world, then you will be
able to.. but not effectively, till you surrender your own will and become
aligned with the bigger consciousness. You can have it, or your *reasons*
why not. Not both. Doesn't work that way..
Blessings..
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