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Recieved: 2001/01/01 03:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] my experiences.Normal? .. Ben . 3
From: Christopher Wynter


On 2001/01/01 03:55, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:

A little Tibetan said to me once

 "Simplicity cannot be overwhelmed"

My experiences verify this ...

At 08:46 PM 1/01/01, Ben wrote:

 >>"I never said rise over.
 I said Transcend.
 This is why I asked that if one
 did not know that meaning of words to look them up." <<

in response to me writing ..

 >>transcendance merely shifts the fulcrum of the pendulum
 to that what used to exist still does .. in another time and
 space <<


 From the Merriam Webster Dictionary ..

Main Entry: tran·scend
Pronunciation: tran(t)-'send
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin transcendere to climb across,
transcend, from trans- + scandere to climb -- more at SCAN
Date: 14th century
transitive senses
1 a : to rise above or go beyond the limits of b : to triumph over the
negative or restrictive aspects of : OVERCOME c : to be prior to, beyond,
and above (the universe or material existence)
2 : to outstrip or outdo in some attribute, quality, or power
intransitive senses : to rise above or extend notably beyond ordinary limits

Oh .. and BTW .. the choice to come back was entirely mine ..
 no-one makes a choice for anyone
 unless they give their power away to another person ..

I decided it was easier to repair this battered body
than come back again as a child
and have to go through the whole repression process again.

You see, Ben ..
 when the throat is open,
 it's very easy to explain things in simple English words
 with out needing a Dictionary.

That is the essence of Wisdom ..

 Having the Knowledge ..
  and the experience to be able to express it.

I wrote ...

 > From experience, ignoring the physical body will only lead to
 > immediate reincarnation .. because the soul (so called) needs
 > a physical body in order to clear several of its densities.

To which Ben replied ..

 > I have never said anything about ignoring the physical body, nor
 > have I said anything about ignoring anything.

 If you transcend any experience you do not embrace it.
 If you transcend the senses, you do not embrace them.

If you do not embrace them,
they still remain .. in another density of consciousness ..

Density ..
 each of what people call the chakras is representative
 of a density of Consciousness .. where physical existence
 is the densest .. followed by the vital .. the emotional .. the
 mental .. etc...

Consciousness (Being experiencing itself as being ..)
embraces that we are conscious of .. and that we are not ..

Ice at 0 degrees is identical to superheated steam at 500 degrees
except in its density. This density is directly related to the energy
level between the molecules ..

So it is with the physical body .. and all of the other bodies.
When you die, all that is left is the physical shell ..
all of the emotions, the vital body and the mind go with you ..
as layers of an onion.

So .. unless you embrace all of existence,
you are merely working in the realm of the mind ..
which is the product of physical matter ...

and all the working in the mental realm does is change the
nature of your thoughts ..

unless you apply to the whole of all of your bodies
 all of what you have learned ..This is the realisation of the self ...
 and the expression of Wisdom ...

 The mind cannot change itself
 so how do you think
 you can change your mind ..

Enlightenment comes from bringing into the light of
the conscious that which is in the unconscious and
running you without you being even aware of its existence.

 That which is unconscious is stored in the cellular
 memory of the Physical body .. as a denser energy
 than that of the mental plane which some call mind.

To Transcend this is to ignore its existence ..

To embrace this is to allow the healing
 as Kundalini moves through clearing all of the densities ..
 allowing the mind to be changed at the cellular density
 of gross physical matter.
CW


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