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Recieved: 2000/11/19 13:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: [HarshaSatsangh] Re: Nails
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2000/11/19 13:08, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Hallo Jascha,
About my "Dutch people can be very *brutaal*" in a previous post.
Thank you for your translations.
"Dutch people can be insolent or impudent" sounds just right. But...
actually... Dutch people tend to be bold, forward and to the point. They
tend to act first and explain talk later. (Has to do with sticking that
finger in the dike.) When their straightforwardness gets misinterpreted they
will quickly become insolent, impudent, brash and give you a piece of their
mind.
They are not necessarily disrespectful, it is just that they feel it is
important to cut through artificial respect which is often based on fear,
mis-trust or manipulation. A respectable or a respectful person is a someone
who can take some straightforward honesty and do without beating around the
bush.
Otherwise, Dutch ppl. are friendly, fun to drink with (anything), smoke with
(hand rolled tobacco or other stuff :-), drink strong coffee with (Dauwe
Egberts accompanied by a spiced cookie), or have a cool beer with (that you
drink from a glass). All this preferably outside on a quaint city or village
square.
Dutch people can be helpful to a fault and very generous OR not at all when
they see it has lead nowhere or that it will lead nowhere.
Going Dutch is not typical for Dutch people. They also do not speak double
Dutch if that means speaking with a forked tongue. What a Dutch treat is? I
don't know...
Maybe it came from 'the Dutch threat' that we were at some point in the past
to the English. A threat that, when you get to know them Dutchies better,
can turn into a real treat. Other wise it may just be a candy ... or...
a treat of love,
Wim
PS.
"Coming from Holland", "Coming from the Netherlands", " coming from the low
countries" or "being Dutch" all mean the same thing.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jascha <mudiraATnospamusa.net>
To: <Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com>
Sent: November 18, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: [K-list] Re: [HarshaSatsangh] Re: Nails
> Hello Wim,
>
> Maybe these translations from my computer-dictionary are interesting. I
think
> the sentence :'Dutch people talk back' comes closest to what you mean.
>
> brutaal, <bn., bw.>>, [zonder respect]insolent==>> <van kinderen>>
> impudent==>> cheeky
> Voorbeeld(en):een brutaal antwoord an insolent reply
> een brutaal stukje a piece of cheek
> brutaal antwoorden answer/talk back
> zij was zo brutaal om ... she had the cheek/nerve to ...
>
> brutaal 2 [vrijpostig] <bn., bw bold==>> forward
> Voorbeeld(en):een brutale opmerking a forward remark
> hij is zo brutaal als de beul he is as bold as brass
>
> brutaalweg, <bw.>>zie volgend(e) voorbeeld(en): hij heeft het brutaalweg
> gedaan he was just insolent and went ahead and did it
> iem. brutaalweg de waarheid zeggen give s.o. a piece of one's mind
>
> brutaliteit, <de (v.)>>cheek==>> impudence
> Voorbeeld(en):hij heeft de brutaliteit te zeggen dat ik lieg
> he has the cheek/nerve to say that I'm lying
>
> Ciao, Jascha
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