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Recieved: 2000/11/02 12:57
Subject: Re: [K-list] .. & Mortals
From: Wim Borsboom


On 2000/11/02 12:57, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:

Dear jb,

You wrote:

> Your point on death, rather relevant to me now,
> since my ex-wife and old friend, is in the hospice,
> .. cancer spread to brain. She is still clear enough.
> Not afraid of dying but of the pain prior to that.
> Also the pain of letting go of the loved ones.

I know it so well, my father died of intestinal cancer just this year (86).
And I was asked to help him practice what I preached by my brothers and
mother. His was a good 'certain end of cycle transformation' (CECT).
My mother 82 is doing extremely well.

> .....So perhaps the thing one should give attention to and enquire into is
> Fear, the pain of loss etc., and not ..is there an after-life or not
> or feeling good about what they say and how 'great' it's gonna be.
> If we learn how to live, we must also know what dying is.. and it
> might not be any different.

That is why in so many posts I have talked about conditionality (if...then),
fear and suffering. The dissolution of illusion has to be practiced and
then the suffering will abate as reality and unconditionality comes in.

> Though You are perhaps in another position than most of us, having
> experienced NDE's.
> There might not be 'death' but the Fact is that the physical form is
> paralysed forever and turned to ashes.. and Not Here any longer to
> talk, play..

Yes I had an advantage with all the NDEs. But, my God, did my parents
suffer, while they were also putting me through the pain. When I got to a
certain point in my enlightenment process though and when I found out that I
did not really understand suffering, illusion, guilt, pain, and compassion,
I started an experiment of 13 years (almost destroying myself on all levels
of being) to find out what it all was. Then at the right moment Kundalini
'all of a sudden' kicked in. That had to do also with a point I was trying
to prove, that there is an innate self restoration process built into our
human condition. A process that is able to steer us back to the
unconditionality of love and life eternal.

The dissolution of illusion has to be practiced though, it is the process.
The difficulties in life (kundalini secretively sneaking up on us) help us
in that. The suffering will abate as reality and unconditionality comes in.
Conditionality (if...then), the 'ifs' have to be turned into 'whens'.
Also when we fearfully say "But, what if...?", we have to practice turning
that statement into "What is...?" and then step by step into "THIS IS IT".
Then we eventually know that all this is!
This for now may be a training ground for purging, purgatory (the suffering
halls of shame) but we will rediscover that this is heaven (the celebration
halls of fame). To 'not know' this is hell (the halls of doom) 'thinking'
that doom is forever. Hell is not forever... Hell is 'thinking' that it is
forever. It is just a sentence.

Thus I write :)

Love,
Wim.

If people want to, I can add some of my later posts about illusion and
suffering to:
http://www.egroups.com/files/Kundalini-Gateway/Wims/
Oh time, oh time! :-) Any volunteer to edit my stuff?

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