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Recieved: 2000/10/30 22:30
Subject: [K-list] Re: [HarshaSatsangh] Re: Clear explanation
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2000/10/30 22:30, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Tony,
> It is not usual for jivanmuktis to
> write articles or books, usually their sayings are written down and
> printed by somebody else. For writing is an intellectual exercise
> of the mind.
There is quite a difference I found and find between writing email-wise and
writing articles or books. There is no reason for contemporary jivanmuktis
to have a lifestyle identical to historical liberated persons. The world may
change, has changed, freedom IN it is the same, the way it manifests can be
in contemporary ways though, why not, that is a sign of freedom.
Have to say though that I prefer to be naked, and often am, so there! It
either means I am crazy or that I am in line with Muktananda, Rudrananda,
Ramana Maharshi, Sai Baba of Shirdi, etc. My god, I even sometimes wear
something that resembles their loin stuff. When I built this house, some
20 - 25 years ago, I wore a loincloth most of the time. (Granted, when
nobody was looking, I was not yet very free :) Omigosh, Tony, what's
happening to me? Yes, I have to admit all the signs are there, never even
thought about that :-) hehehehe.
I used to write years ago... the book way, but found that that indeed became
impossible, undesirable even.
Satsang, ashrams, the way it used to be, it is all so different now, we are
now in a cyber world. It does make a difference, although that is a rather
cliche observation. Internet indeed puts information at our fingertips, just
put a link in and there you go, the writing has already been done, the
reader just has to look it up, 'hyper text'.
> For writing is an intellectual exercise of the mind.
I find that less so, now. Just writing my experiences, witnessing, giving an
account of them. No mental involvement needed. Just nerve and brain,
functional stuff. All from experiential input, feeling, senses, sensual
digestion not mental involvement, kid stuff almost (the little Brahman).
I bet you, I use the cerebellum more to type than the cerebrum and
mesencephalon, the parts of the brain that are usually kept so busy with
mental processing. Which is neat, so the glorious sweetness and bliss does
not have to disappear when I do write.
I can actually record that with a biofeedback apparatus I use in my
practice, (Aurastar, an Aura - Chakra biofeedback system based energy
readings from the reflex zones of the hand.)www.colourenergy.com
On a scale from 1 to 100 (50 being normal) most adult mind/intellect
centered ppl. have a cerebellum activity of 20 %. While in sensory and
physically active, as well as creative people cerebellum activity can be as
high as 100%. Many parts of the brain of self-liberating or liberated people
(and many glands and organs in the rest of their body) often reach 100 %.
For many people who have those numbers high, I can tell if they are on the
self realization track (or not) by looking at the energy levels of other
physical organs (thyroid, thymus, lymph system, urinal system, lungs,
pancreas, liver.) When they record energy levels below 40% we often have a
person on the machine with a mind / body split. Usually when I see an
average of 60 % over a narrow range (between 55 and 65 %) I know we've got a
person who is in the proces of freeing or healing him or herself.
I have had a 'jivan mukti' on the apparatus who's numbers were in a very
narrow range around 90%. Aura all pink and white with some light blue, all
chakras open and neatly balanced.
When I am on the machine the numbers and colours (if they register at all)
are indicative of quite a neat and free kind of guy with some small spots
often a bit gunky. I should say that very often the machine does not
register readings from healers and 'realizers'. The hands have to be
prepared a bit differently. The 'healers and 'realizers' more unconditional
states allows them to shrink their aura, also a sign of subjects who easily
reach Samadhi states or have gone through NDEs (near death experiences). I
think the shrinking is also needed in order not to be susceptible to
external negativity. I am sometimes not careful. Which is OK with me, still
have to learn so much more of the human condition.
> Parakshit's Thief in the Palace can play many tricks, and one of them
> is to give people an impression of detachment and a feeling of being
> the witness.
Oh, that sounds a little too much like the christian satan. Do we have to be
"beware" now, is all this what we do really the devil, the anti-christ, evil
creeping in on us?
I am joking only a little bit here.
> This is where the ego hides and lets a person
> think they have become the witness, it is still
> within the mind therefore unreal and illusion.
Tony, the EGO is illusion, does actually not even exist, cannot even hide.
The concept of EGO is an invention of religious powermongers, it is used to
play illusive tricks on you that lead eventually to suffering, anger,
bitterness, and vengeful actions. All the while are you enslaved... get off
it right now!.
You have tackled it once, do not set the trap for yourself again.
> My gleaned opinion again, I am still a sadhaka.
Right, so let go of most opinions in those paragraphs:
>>>>>Parakshit's Thief in the Palace can play many tricks, and one of them
is to give people an impression of detachment and a feeling of being
the witness. Just as savikalpa samadhis are deceiving, or even yoga
nidras, so is this condition. Yes it is a withdrawal of something,
almost like a child talking about itself in the third person.
However the witness condition as described in Vedanta is of two birds
on the one tree. One being the Jiva and the other being the Saguna
Brahman. In samsaric illusion, Saguna Brahman or the Goddess is the
witness. This would require a becoming that is beyond the lower
attachments or even lower samadhis. This is where the ego hides and
lets a person think they have become the witness, it is still within
the mind therefore unreal and illusion.>>>>>
That is a lot of gobbledegook.
So much moral stuff in the above two paragraphs.
Swami stuff not Yogi stuff,
Sermon stuff not inspiration stuff.
Pastor stuff not Jesus stuff.
(Oh, did I just put my foot in my mouth?)
The difference between spirituality and religion.
> Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
Like wise, Tony, and could you find out more about Vishnu?
How do you like Indian art and sculpture, Tibetan and Cambodian (Khmer
empire), Oriental art, sculpture and architecture overall? Tangible art is
beyond words, it does not argue.
When I see Shiva and Vishnu in one sculpture (Hari Hara) I get immediately
touched, no mind there.
Love,
Wim
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