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Recieved: 2000/10/26 21:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Einstein and the Point - Another Koan?
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2000/10/26 21:55, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear David,
I wrote:
>> If I(?) know where interaction takes place,
>> I cannot know when it actually occurs.
>> If I know when interaction occurs,
>> I cannot know where it actually takes place.
You wrote:
> Only because the instruments we currently have are gross enough that they
can
> only measure one or the other..... this does not necessarily imply that
the
> particle does not have a where and a when simultaneously.... only that we
> cannot at this time, because of the cumbersomeness of our equipment,
measure
> both at once. The whole "uncertainty" principle is therefore an
artificial
> construct built upon a shaky assumption.....
Actually, I saw in one of my experiential visions that time and space are a
*creation of each other*. They are the cause and effect of each other, there
is a simultanuity to it but that simultanuity is not of the same kind as our
present space/time concurrencies. We live in very zoomed out circumstances,
and the resolution of our existence level is quite coarse.
Funny experience that is, as time/space create each other, they twirl about,
not knowing who is what and when. It is very comical. The experience comes
with great primal laughter and cosmic humor. Way more fun and not as
agonizingly stupid (I mean this well :-) as the play of a dog trying to
catch its tail. More something like a very dynamic and multidimensional 'yin
yang' representation. Try imagining the 'yin yang' thing as a spherical
object, try to also imagine that the two-ness of it is really a one-ness,
where only one beginnining is depicted but as two ends, the two shades could
be seen as the two sides of one of those circular ribbons where the inside
becomes the outside because of a twist in the ribbon before the two ends
where connected and the circle was closed, (forget the name of the thing at
the moment), the shape of an ambihelical ring.
David, you suggest that when we refine the measurement instruments we
currently use to the ultimate that they will then measure and prove the
location in time of an object absolutely, define the exact spot at the most
specific moment. In fact the opposite will happen. The reason that the
uncertainty principle exists at all is because it was produced from pure
mathematics, it fell so to say out of the calculations. Philosophically it
was already proven, the same philosophy that the old wisdom scriptures bear
witness of. (And that my own visionary experiences corroborate.)
Oh how I wish, anybody could have my visionary experiences..., just
surrender, OK? It is that simple (not easy... but simple) and keep
surrendering... It is worth it... You can of course also wait till you die
etc...... The chances are better *then*, to tumble into that divine
laughter... *Now* surrender is hard work. At the moment of passing through
the limiting border of time and passing from the boundedness of space, one
just about has no choice... Unless one chooses : "Not yet!"
Love,
Wim
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