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From: Magne Aga
On 2000/10/26 14:59, Magne Aga posted thus to the K-list:
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From: Magne Aga <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
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Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:36 PM
Subject: [HarshaSatsangh] Re: Uncertainty or ....... Possibility?
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>Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:39 AM
>Subject: Re: Uncertainty or ....... Possibility?
>
>
>>Dear Magne,
>>
>>(So glad you are back from lurkdom, what happened?)
>>
>
>Doesn't matter. No one would believe it anyway.
>
>>Now, as we as humans are rather complex conglomerates of electrons <...>
>>I had the conscious experience of
>>being a grain of sand, "I WAS A GRAIN OF SAND", somewhere on a beach in
>>California, Long Beach? Oh, that was so neat, to be grain of sand and
>>knowing somehow that a wave (a real one, I mean water) was coming and
>>getting myself and my sand buddies ready for the rippally tumble... hmmmmm
>>surrender... and no objection to it, the way we humans so often resist to
>go
>>with the flow.
>
>My proposal is that the Delta brainwave state is the consciousness of the
>mineral kingdom. My experience of the Delta realm, is that there are no
>*here* nor *there*. When I type these lines, I watch on a computer monitor.
>When I walk on the street, I see objects around me, etc...
>However, in Delta, when looking on an object, for instance the statue of
the
>goddess Athena on the top of my desk, there is no *me* and *it*. I *am* the
>statue of Athena in the same moment I observe it. There's no difference
>between *here* (ego-reference) and *there*, there's no reference at all !
>The first time I entered Delta during the awake state (Beta + Delta) was in
>the middle of a crowd of people. Suddendly....... Where Am I? I was
everyone
>! Everyone and everything I watched was *me*, and *I* was
>nowhere.....................................
>
>So - in a sense, since the minerals do not have an *ego*, this was de facto
>an experience which *I* never have had ! (another koan)........
>
>Here's an extract from some postings to a group in the US:
>
>* September 19th, 2000
>Subject: Transition
>
>Today, 10 35 AM, my father passed away at the hospital. I and my mother was
>at his bed until his last breath.
>
>There's more than 4 years since he got a serious stroke. The doctors
thought
>he would not survive the stroke in 1996. But thank's to healing he survived
>*miraculously*.
>
>However, he has now left the pain in these world. The last days, having
>contemplated on Chuang Tze's - the ancient Chinese Taoist's, dream about
>beeing a butterfly, I now see these tale from another perspective.
>
>It's difficult to put words on his pain and suffering the last weeks. But
>one image popped up. The butterfly leaves the chrysalis. The pain of
>attachement is left behind. The bridges are burn. The suffering is over.
>Peace with his soul.
>
>"Life is a cold, short moment; death is a long, warm rest", as the song
>goes.
>
>You will get your requested postings. I just need time to digest his
>transition for myself and others.
>
>PEACE
>
>+++++
>
>* September 21, 2000
>Subject: Re: one quick question
>
>Thank's for your concern about my dad. A few minutes after his death, with
>my mother and my uncle crying in his room, I could sense his presence, as
if
>the pranic aura had not left him yet.
>
>When I went to sleep last night, my Crown chakra was filled from above with
>violet and white energy. And 7 is the last sacrament, the *last oil*.
>
>I awoke these morning in these characteristic, these distinctive state -
>which yet lacks any description. Something changed inside, yet unable to
put
>any finger on it. *Bliss* is the closest word....
>
>But, in a sense, it's combined with a vague depression - having lost the
>person I've healed, nursed, helped for years.... I've even protected him
>from any information about my own grotesque everyday life.
>
>Before I went to sleep, I focused on helping him traverse through the four
>lower astral planes ASAP. Nobody needs more suffering than necessary.
>
>Transformation.... According to the shamans in ancient Mexico, all we do -
>and all we need do, in order to perform miracles, to transform into
>something else - anything else, is *moving the assemblage point of
>consciousness*.
>
>AmerIndians have ancient tales about shamans transforming theirselves into
>animals. Modern physics states that subnuclear particles changes
*suddendly*
>into other particles, by entering the unknown X they call *quants*. These
>unknown X, is called Tao in China and Nagual on the American continent. And
>in the words of the Taoist Chuang Tzu (about 300 BC), we find the same
>shamanistic view:
>
>Once I, Chuang Chou, dreamed I was a butterfly and was happy as a
butterfly.
>I was conscious that I was quite pleased with myself, but I did not know
>that I was Chuang Chou. Suddenly I awoke, and there was I, visibly Chuang
>Chou. I do not know whether it was Chuang Chou dreaming that he was a
>butterfly or the butterfly dreaming that he was Chuang Chou. Between Chuang
>Chou and the butterfly there must be some distinction. This is called the
>transformation of things.
>
>(attached image: butterfly2.jpg)
>
>- Chuang Tzu, Chapter 2
>
>Such are my thoughts about my dad - a butterfly who attained freedom,
>released from misery..... In fact, I and my uncle was at the hospital
>picking up his last remaining things there, during the writing of these
>E-mail (my mother could not bear another visit)....
>
>>we will NOT move our bodies through some air space yet
>>without first having bought a plane seat and pay some airline.
>
>Why?
>
>>The extra two elements -
>>light and pure consciousness... there is quite a variety along those lines
>>suggested by the pundits (this btw, is a fairly recent idea in the aura
and
>>chakra world) - the two extra elements which Hindu philosophers and some
>>Tibettan lamas attach to the brow and crown chakras are on the right
track.
>>and my wavely blobbiness fits right in when I project myself outwards and
>>inwards hyper-dimensionally.
>
>I call it EMPTINESS and consciousness (the crystal clear, formless,
>limitless, possibility-infinite, light seen during transition or
>initiation), and these light is the very consciousness itself.
>
>>This topic of phase states is important. The set of five elements (earth,
>>water, fire, air, space) is just one of various oriental versions of phase
>>states. The latin word 'quintessence' is a sign that early western nature
>>philosophers were also onto something like phase states. They used terms
>>like fire, rain, wind and snow if I remember well; quintessence was the
>>'fifth essence'.
>
>In Kriya Yoga we transforms 5 emotions from negative to positive emotions.
>The negative is not the opposite of the positive - without the negative
>there would be nothing to transform. Hatred is not *no-love*; the opposite
>of love is indifference.
>
>>I do actually partition myself off in my
>>auric phase state like a flame going off on its own from a campfire, but
>>these parted off blobs of mine can persist whereas flames, well... they
>just
>>go up in flames :-). I pro-generate so to say, soul matter for newborns...
>
>Just be aware of the fact that while the pineal gland causes Diversity, the
>pituitary gland represents Unity. The 3 states Delta (minerals), Theta
>(vegetables), Alpha (animals) may be splintered to such a degree that
>different *personalities* occurs on each levels - *the 3 faces of Eve*. The
>only resurrection from these diversity, depicted in Egyptian mythology by
>the story of Osiris beeing cut into pieces by a sword, is the Goddess Isis
>collecting the pieces together again. That is - the *waterline* of
Kundalini
>in the head Unites the two chakras, making the resurrection possible. And
>Isis is the feminine part, since the I AM is the new-born identity or
>newborn child of *immaculate conception*.
>
>Our Higher Guardian Angel, these mirror-game, these phase-shifting
>reflection of the fragments of past, present, and future, throw the Pearl
of
>Compassion downwards, hitting the Pineal gland, causing the sound *OM*, the
>*Big Bang*, Creation............ while the *horisontal bar*, the
>Anja-Sahasrara-link prepares the newborn Unity. Through the *two of us*
(our
>Guardian Angel and our I AM), we encompass cosmos..........
>
>>I also expand and shrink my aura very easily, and it is in fact in my more
>>condensed version that I find it easier to pinpoint my direction... but I
>am
>>riding the waves... Powerlines form quite an attraction for me, also those
>>wire grids that are used for trolley busses and electric trains and trams.
>>By the way, the foods I peruse in those circumstances resembles very much
>>the finest deserts. (It is indeed heaven, and the beings I meet are indeed
>>most often angeliquely heavenly.)
>
>Interesting! Then you have managed to move the focus of your etheric web
>into the head. Brilliant indeeed.......... This is the first of 4 steps,
>corresponding to the 4-bladed lotus, the *root*.
>
>I wrote earlier, some time in '99:
>
>POLES IN THE CHAKRA-SYSTEM
>
>In everything that exists there are duality. Taoists use the Yin-Yang
symbol
>to express mutually dependant poles, which needs to be balanced. Some
>healing techniques focus on the two poles in our hands and brain
>hemispheres. Kriya Yoga and similar techniques dwell with balancing the two
>poles of upstream (Kundalini) and downstream (Light Body) energy flows.
>
>But there´s another duality in each of the 7 chakras. The different chakras
>varies in the number of "blades". Everyone of them consists of PAIRS of
>blades. Here we experience polarity again, because the two poles in each
>chakra have a CONSCIOUS (male) and an UNCONSCIOUS (female) half.
>In other words, one half of a chakra can evolve by conscious means. The
>other pole unfolds during sleep. This is an extremly important discovery
for
>me personally, since - when Kundalini reach my throath chakra, I sometimes
>goes into a trance-like state of consciousness, unable to be conscious on
>the physical plane.
>
>Chakra means "wheel" or "rotation". I haven´t met anyone yet, able to
>explain the different degrees of velocity speeds. When the "rotations" in
my
>throath reach a certain speed, my assemblage point of consciousness goes
>into another dimension, leaving the physical world completly behind for a
>moment.
>
>2600 Years Ago, after his Enlightment, Gautama Buddha preached the 4 Noble
>Truths in the Benares Park. The 4th Noble Truth is the "Way of the 8 Laws
or
>dharma´s":
>
>1 Samyag Drishti (Perfect Sight)
>2 Samyak Samkalpa (Perfect Understanding)
>3 Samyag Vak (Perfect Speech)
>4 Samyak Karmanta (Perfect Action)
>5 Samyagajiva (Perfect way of living)
>6 Samyag Vyayama (Perfect practice)
>7 Samyak Smriti (Perfect concentration of mind)
>8 Samyak Samadhi (Perfect contemplation)
>
>....These 8 codes of conduct corresponds to 8 "blades" of our Throath
>(Vishuddhi) Chakra, or more precisely, the Pole of the lotus of 16-blades
>which can be developed by CONSCIOUS means.
>
>The other 8 "blades" CAN NOT evolve by conscious means. They unfold during
>our unconscious, "dark" side, the feminine YIN pole of sleep.
>
>..............................
>
>"Perfect Sight" is eqivalent to clear attention. To see the world just AS
IT
>IS, "Suchness" or "yathabhutam", just like a Child who see the World for
the
>first time, without beeing disturbed by personal, cultural or ethical
>coloured "opinions".
>
>When performing Kriya Yoga for the first time, I wrote in my diary that I
>have just seen my little Village for the first time in my life ! I entered
a
>trip of cosmic consciousness, an ecstasy of Joy and Beauty of the "small
>things" in our environment. It was a vivacious, perfectly awaken attention
>of evrythings inherent Beauty of "Suchness", without beeing entrapped by
the
>lower personality´s endless subdividing of things into catecories or names
>or classifications (maya or relative measurments or "points of view").
>
>FIRST CHAKRA - THE ROOT WITH 4 BLADES
>
>Gautama Buddhas 4th Noble Truth, the "Way of the 8 Laws or dharma´s", are
>also divided into Shila (ethical rules) - Samadhi (contemplation) - Prajna
>(wisdom).
>
>Prajna is to Realize the 4 "general states" (samyana-lakshana) of
Existence:
>
>1) Everything which are formed by causality is perishable
>2) Everything which are formed by causality is connected with suffering
>(dukha)
>3) Everything is Anatman (No Atman); or - rather: Every relative concept
>about Atman cannot be Atman. ("The Tao which can be named is not the
Eternal
>Tao")
>4) Nirvana is Peacefull
>
>The first habit is the ability to discern between transitory, perishable
>"values" - political, social, cultural "moral" fashions and racial trends,
>our present culture - and Values of Endurance. Man-made "laws" versus
>Cosmic, Universal Laws.
>
>The Law of the Universe is Change. It's ebb and flow. The energy goes one
>way, reach a climax, returns, goes the opposite way, reach a climax, and
>returns ... A Reiki-healer told me once, after I've received a giant Light
>influx, that she became "Sea-sick" of my energy flow of upwards and
>downwards the Chakra-system.
>
>Instead of drifting helpless with the Energy, we can step aside as an
>OBSERVER. This is True Meditation. A meditation of Steadfastness and
>stability. The All-seeing, non-interfering observer of transitory values.
>Beeing the Chakra of the Root, "muladhara" (the fundamental root), it's the
>center of GROUNDING. The center of beeing anchored in SAT, the absolute.
>
>The second habit follows logically from the first, since the withdrawal
from
>relative values causes *detachment*; the cease of all the disappointments
>and suffering we experience when clinging to values which cannot last due
to
>a Universal Law. The Law of the Energy's pendulum.
>
>The 4 habits also concerns the "Cocoon of White Light Meditation", which
>exists in several forms - a Tibetan one among many.......
>
>The first habit creates - in these protecting Cocoon, an energy focus in
the
>6-bladed Manas Chakra - one of the secondary chakras in the head. My
>personal experience of these Chakra-awakening was confusion, the feeling of
>going around in a mental fog, which I even saw Clairvoiantly as a fog, a
>plasma. This awakening, and the confusion of the lower ego, was due to a
180
>degrees, a U-turn, in my life. The 4th Initiation is to manifest why on
>Earth, one's *vision of Birth*. And Understanding (Manas) is essensial in
>order to implement it.
>
>The second habit moves the focus to Lalana Chakra, the secondary lotus of
>the throath. During these process, the cocoon becomes a "scin", so to say.
>While the stream of Prana - Life-Force - normally goes in and out the body
>as the pendulum ebb and flow of Life-energy from the outer Ocean of Life,
it
>must now pass the protecting "skin", making it possible to FEEL the
>influences from outside. Besides, it awakens the ability to move the
etheric
>body consciously - while it earlier was influenced by outer, unconscious
>influences. The ability to rotate the etheric body is possible by 48
streams
>of energy (nadis) going downwards both hands from the "2-bladed" lotus of
>Ajna, the 3rd eye.
>
>The "skin" also defines the size of the auric envelope. And the more
>developed You are spiritually, the larger the Aura. A highly initiated can
>Enlighten a whole City. Sananda can raise a whole planet (Earth).
>The 3rd habit is connected with the Hearth Chakra (Anahata), the home of
>Jivatman - and it's 6 *habits*.
>
>When incorporating the 4th character trait, the rest in SUNNYATA
(Emptiness)
>or Freedom, we are released from our lower ego, our *favourite*
>EBB-AND-FLOW-MADE theories/ideologies/viewpoints. We are free from the
>frustrating attempts to cling to values which can not last.
>*Favorite*, relative *teachings* from our relative ego is meaningless in
the
>Liberation of Sunnyata, because there's no one to react to anything, no
>place to go, no yearning to change anything. Nor is there any concern in
>that state for the misery of mediocrity of daily life as it is usually
>lived, that is, in a constant attachment to objects.
>
>No *explanations* of the relative mind can lead to a life of Sunnyata. It
>does not begin unless all ideas, beliefs and attachments cease to be. It
>implies that the relative mind is no longer, and something else takes its
>place. It would seem to be a temptation for the mind, when confronted with
>CHAOS (NO-THING), to create new ideas in order to *explain* it. This void
>could be so deeply uncomfortable, that it could be tempting to fill it up
>with new concepts. It is tempting to create new *ideas* out of the notion
>that all ideas are to be given up !
>
>Sunnyata or CHAOS is Emptiness, that is - nothing to cling to, no
reference.
>Together with the Law of Change, Accelrating Changes due to ebb and flow,
>the lower, relative Ego may also be scared. The lower Ego may be scared of
>the Abyss [beneath the *waterline* in the head], attempting to *escape*
from
>the Void, experiencing the frustrating effects of the proverb: "The more
>things change, the more they remain the same".
>
>Eliminating attachments, creates a tremendous vacuum in one's life. A
>formidable problem is how difficult it is to really see it for oneself,
>since there is no help from any scripture, guru, or tradition. However,
>descriptions of the relative mind (all descriptions are the descriptions of
>the relative mind), are not the described. And even when the description is
>inspiring, it is never itself the life of Sunnyata.
>
>Being left without any concept to depend on, feels so "wrong" to the
>concept-bound relative ego, that it may assume that there must be something
>wrong with the death of all of its preciously-held attachments. But as long
>as one follows a *facit*, it is the relative mind, the ego, that's in
>charge. One might want a facit for how life will be without the relative
>mind. But it's impossible to predetermine, because it is always original,
>unique.
>
>EVERY MAN IS A STAR !
>
>[ And, in these discussions of uncertainty, possibility, we could add
that -
>according to fractal geometry, everything is unique, uncomparable,
including
>these very *here and now* ]
>
>This is urgent NOW, since Life itself has reached the point of no return in
>our journey into the 4th Dimension. The ascended masters have announced
that
>Karma - good or bad - in the meaning of preordained roles and credits,
>doesn't hold anymore. We are at the Dawn of a New 25 920 Years Cycle of
>Evolution including the incoming Age of Aquarius.
>
>When Sunnyata / Chaos is the only absolute reference, the final focus of
our
>etheric *skin* blossoms in the SECONDARY Heart-chakra, The Chakra of Beauty
>(hridayam) with 8 blades. The Auras 101 primordial nadis becomes centered
>there.
>
>>> Then we can redefine *uncertainty* as possibility, miracles, creativity.
>>Yep
>
>
>In emptiness (shunyata) everything is possible. Do we need cups of Tea
>FILLED with Tea in the kitchen-cupboard? NO !
>
>
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