To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/10/10 20:32
Subject: Re: [K-list] The Role of Consciousness
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent

At 03:38 AM 10/10/00, Wim Borsboom wrote:
>Dear Angelique,
>I fully agree with your assessment of the witness state, your exercise is
>wonderful in helping a person to understand the dynamics of it and to help a
>person place him or herself into that state.

  yup. that was the request..:)

>However, as I wrote a few postings ago, we have to become 'direct' again,
>reclaim our immediacy. The dichotomy between the object/subject aspects of
>oneself has to disappear. The witness state is an intermediary stage only.

Sure it is.. Eventually you come out the other side of grey alien
Witness emotionlessness into fat buddha belly laughter+tears at the beauty
and folly of All that Is.. Shrug laugh don't care detached and dazzled by
the joy and sweet tragedy that is the entertainment of being alive in
Maya.. Been there, done that, but it's been a hell of a year and I lost it
so I'm shedding my skin. Just my orbit.
Witness state is pleasant anaestesia while Goddess peels me like an onion.

   Ha that makes me think of a song.. I've decided it is the definitive
theme for the K-list food fights. :) You can hear it in 4 part harmony...

http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/444/444237.html
"I've heard the screams of the vegetables, (scream scream scream)
watching their skins being peeled (fates in the stir fry are sealed)
Grated and steamed with no mercy (you fat gourmet scum.)
How do you think that feels? ( bet it hurts really bad.)"

>My God, what a load of BS and ludicrous verbosity the above would be if it
>was not true. Bear with me, I have at times told this story simpler.

 Yup, you lost me after the first 2 paragraphs of that essay.. ADD
attention span.. But it is fun, isn't it, to try to capture the ineffable
in words and share it?
 Even tho it cannot really be known without experience that is not a
reason to deny the creative impulse...

>Well, Angelique you mentioned the wild scientist in me, mad would be
>appropriate. Cute? All right. Scientist ? Oh well...

 Well you do look like a mad scientist.. you talk like one too..:)
 With sincere appreciation of your uniqueness and big heart.. :) I like
mad scientists.. :)

>Sorry, will try again later.
>
>Love,
>Wim

 :) I'm sure you will.. Lots of windmills where you come from.. you
look a bit like Don Quixote too. :) It's all Art.. feel free to rhapsodize..

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