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Recieved: 2000/09/25 18:21
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: We Need Some Help And Inspiration
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/09/25 18:21, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 01:44 PM 9/24/00, Sheila A. Fabi wrote:
>A rose, no matter what it is called-will always smell like a rose. The
>name of
>it does not change the object. The universal language seems to be sign
>language
Yes, the vast mind of the Unconscious prefers symbolism to words..
which is why all the word-systems and all the religious writings in the
world, fall short of describing K.
>There are many truths. Different strokes for different folks. When you study
>many philosophies you will see that underneath they are all saying the same
>thing, different road, different language.
Yes.. so in the end it doesn't matter which you choose.. all roads
lead to Rome. The difference is whether the language is resonant for you,
personally... and that is a reflection of your uniqueness.
Every religion in the world started out as someone like you, wanting
to write a "manual" to assist the progress of others. The idea that there
can be a definitive, "One size fits all" Kundalini manual is illusory. An
impossible task. At best there can be sketchy outlines of what *can*
happen, but they are in no way definitive, and can even be damaging.
For example, I warn Kundalini newbies away from the work of Gopi
Krishna,. because he is an alarmist who had a horrendous awakening and so
he is full of scary warnings. If people buy into the idea that their
awakening will be similar, then it will be... belief creates.. wheras there
are other forms, like TM that never speak of K. but awaken it anyhow, that
tend to be gentler.
>Scientifically we are about to evolve physically. A small part of the
>brain in
>some already advanced people is crystallizing (hardening) and receiving
>thoughts
>and pictures. Scientists are just discovering this and have performed
>autopsies
>on people and cannot explain this phenomena.
Yes, the mass consciousness shift. The numbers of awakened people
growing exponentially form an evolutionary shift that is physical as well
as emotional. I doubt that my DNA is still wholly "Human".. it is mutated
beyond "normal" human limits. They have found there are many children being
born with DNA that classifies them as a different species than human, too..
they think differently, and have better immune systems.
>Absolutely. Kundalini rising is a happening thing to persons of all walks of
>life, in all cultures. Some are not ready to hear about the shaktiput.
>Give it
>another word-like halo, or your golden aura, and they can understand. I find
>this especially true with younger folk. Once the interest has been captured
>they may want to study further and that's when they can progress to the
>sanskrit.
Yes, I find that too.. Goddess made my brain to not really
comprehend Sanskrit, so instead I learned to speak of events in a language
that westerners can comprehend.. :)
> > Yes, it seems so - and we also need to be kundalini explorers willing to
> > broaden spiritual experience past previous limits and yes to formulate
> a new
> > language and new words to describe a new understanding of how kundalini
> > functions. It is not enough to scale the same old mountain. Our
> context is
> > different - we are in a different age - or so it seems
>
>With all of the great minds in this group, maybe we can collectively pull our
>knowledge and experiences together and create a beginner's manual to K
>rising/awakening. In simple, easy to understand, easy to read format.
That is exactly what I have been working on doing, for the past
year.. :) Putting all the most resonant information gathered in 4 years
running the list, plus my own lifetimes experience of K., into 60 easy to
understand lessons/videos webpages that will guide people in understanding
their own process, and give the experiences that transmit the symbolic
language that K. really speaks in. Setting them up for the deeper knowing
that cannot be described in words.. Shakti teaches.
The need to create the kind of database you are speaking of, has been
pulling at me for quite a while.. :) So I acted on it, and what a lot of
work it was!! LOL!! It just kept growing and growing.. Now is open, but
still under construction in some places.
However, if you want to try to create another one, or if the list as
a group would like to pull together on such a project, there is plenty of
room on the Kundalini Gateway list site, and I have another domain,
Fire-Serpent.org that has nothing on it. Goddess told me to set it up but
She hasn't told me what it is for.
I would love to see the K-list gateway grow to become much more
comprehensive as a resource for the spontaneously awakened. However, I
cannot do that on my own, I have already done the best I can in creating
the "manual", running the lists, and the present site. I have had some help
with it, but mostly it was my own effort, and I am stretched as thin as I
can stretch... especially now that I am working on creating the meditation
retreat/Kundalini Mystery school vision Goddess gave me when I was 9 years
old..
I have instead had to back away from the lists and some of my other
committments for a while to reintegrate my thinly spread self.
Everything I know, everything I have taught and learned and shared in
my years as moderator of K.lists, I am offering up as "Fire-Serpent
Tantra".. I have done as much as one person can do, alone. Anything bigger
would have to be a group effort, many minds coming together in harmony,
with no religion but the K. experience itself as unifying factor.. as the
list itself is.
> Maybe post
>it so everyone can read it before they join the group.
>Sheila
Well, this is not free, it is $88.88 for a years access.. cheap,
considering how much information and energy is transmitted. It is a
learning, growing experience that will take most folks 6 months to a year
to integrate, and a lifetime to fully unfold after that.
Making people take it before they join the list would be excessive, and
that is not really the point of the list. The list is community,
conversation.. people sharing experiences, not a Mystery School. There are
many mystery schools all over the world that use their own terms for K. I
built one that uses the language that seems to be most readily understood
by the kind of Westerners who the K-list seems to attract. However, I
certainly would not want to make any kind of "manual" a prerequisite for
list membership, because that idea goes against the multidenominational/non
denominational nature of the list.
There are generalizations about K. that can be communicated, but the
real transformation process is experiential. The rose itself, and the scent
and feelings that names alone do not convey.
The Preview to the program is at www.Fire-Serpent.com
On that site is also a shorter version of the grounding, with a video
and an animated gif of the visualization. It is a sample lesson to show
what each lesson is like. http://www.fire-serpent.com/1grnd.html
Enjoy! Blessings..
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