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Recieved: 2000/09/25 10:53
Subject: [K-list] Re: saturday thoughts
From: Bob Vincent
On 2000/09/25 10:53, Bob Vincent posted thus to the K-list:
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--- In Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com, divine_goddessATnospamh... wrote:
> I think it is very much possible to have the k awaken without having
> a spiritual awakening and I think the reverse is true; a spiritual
> awakening can happen without any k involvement at all.
> I wonder sometimes what an awakening is. I certainly had more
> insights after my k woke up but I think I had been waking up in a
> spiritual manner all my life.
>
> I guess I would call an awakening, coming alive out of a dream to a
> brand new day, to a brand new way of seeing and experiencing life.
>
> I wake up every day from more than just sleep.
Hi Susan,
If you are speaking of K as body/mind symptoms of the dramatic
variety, I would agree with you. We tend to think of K in terms of
the dramatic events she gives us, especially around this forum.
However, Kundalini is more commonly thought of in her dormant state,
at least before this era of rampant awakenings. Even in the so-called
dormant state, K is still the fountainhead of spiritual experience,
so that might be the situation you mention with a spiritual awakening
happening "without K." Without K being highly active is what you
mean, I presume. Likewise, in a premature K awakening, spiritual
awakening might seem to be less than one would expect, less silence,
less deep abiding bliss, etc. So, there can be that apparent
disconnectedness going either way. In my opinion there is only one
spiritual psychophysiology, so while the K symptoms versus spiritual
awakening symptoms might seem independent and not corresponding
sometimes, I think the fundamental cause of both is the same. Sooner
or later, all of the telltale signs of both K awakening and spiritual
awakening will catch up with each other, yes? And that is the proof
of the pudding for a single process of unfoldment going on.
It is a very interesting question you raise. Is our evolution a
unitary process, or a divergent one? Golly, I hope it is unitary, or
I have been barking up the wrong tree for a very long time! :-)
In "the traditions," there is great emphasis on "preparation" for the
raising of K, focusing on preparing the ground of spiritual awareness
prior to activating K. This would be putting spiritual awakening of
the long term gentle variety before the breaking loose of the K
energy for what is considered the climax stage of spiritual
development. It is certainly a more comfortable way to go, for the
prerequisites include the establishment of deep inner silence and
stability prior to K awakening. Also, the prerequisites include a
wide range of purifications to help minimize the discomforts of K
awakening. But I believe it is K at every stage, starting with a
little, and ending up with a lot when the body/mind is ready. Indeed,
I think K is directing the entire process from the very
beginning, "dormant" or not, and we are but willing or unwilling
participants in the drama.
Obviously, it doesn't always go from quiet spiritual awakening to
dramtic K awakening, does it? The question around here has often
been, "How do I manage a premature opening?" Less often the question
here is, "How do I raise K?" Either way, I think we are working with
the same dynamics, though the symptoms can vary widely depending on
what happens when.
Just my thoughts, for whatever they are worth.
Peace,
Bob
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