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Subject: [K-list] Chakras etc.
From: Harsha
On 2000/09/03 20:00, Harsha posted thus to the K-list:
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Let me welcome the highly distinguished Wim and other new members who have
recently joined HarshaSatsangha. And thank you Linda for your insightful
comments on Chakras. Although, there are said to be 7 main chakras,
different traditions assign different numbers to them. As Wim hints, one can
conceptualize a great number of Chakras. Wherever awareness is focused, that
becomes active with Shakti. Awareness and manifestations of Shakti are
inseparable from each other, as Shakti is the energy of consciousness.
To answer your question Wim. There are said to be three hearts. One is the
physical organ on the left. One is the psychic heart center of Kundalini
Yoga, which is meditated and felt in the center of the chest. When Shakti
rises from the psychic heart center, it can give rise to visions of angels,
and appearances of deities and the Goddesses who give their blessings.
The third is the Spiritual Heart, which for a yogi is felt and experienced
after the Kundalini Shakti has reached Sahasarara and has gone beyond it.
Here, everything disappears as the Shakti merges in the Self. Nothing can be
said of That but the mind approximates it by calling it Sat-Chit-Ananda.
Ramana Maharshi was the first modern sage to point out this subtle process
and how it ends. Some conversations harmonizing Kundalini Yoga with Jnana
can be found in "The Talks" of the Sage of Arunachala.
"Be As You Are" - - A nice compilation of conversations with Ramana by David
Godman is an excellent source of information.
Love to all and welcome and thanks for some wonderful posts.
Harsha
-----Original Message-----
From: Wim Borsboom [mailto:aurasphereATnospamhome.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 3:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [K-list] Chakras etc.
Dear Harsha:
You wrote:
> The number of petals assigned to a chakra indicates the number of psychic
> nerves that intersect there.
The connection of these "psychic" nerves to "physical" nerves has become
very evident to me.
> External methods of seeing the chakras involve breathing and retention
> practices while stimulating the optical nerves and indirectly the nervous
> system and the activities of brain and the heart.
What do you mean by the "heart" here though, Harsha? The heart chakra or the
physical blood pumping thing? I can vary heart beats easily and certain
kinds of heart palpitations occur in certain Samadhi states. (Itzak (sp?)
Bentov comes to mind.)
> In certain Samadhis, due to the activity of the Shakti, the
> optical nerves are spontaneously stimulated, and one sees one chakra after
> another and the different petals associated with them. These are not
> imagination in the usual sense but colorful, intense, and precise
visionary
> experiences appearing in the mind's eye.
How true and so precise !!!
I can observe chakras quite easily. In fact I have come to conclude that
every nerve end is a tiny chakra as I see every nerve end clearly as a tiny
'whirlying thingy like opening" taking in or giving off energy. In
addition to physical and astral travel (hehehe) I also travel inside the
human body... the most interesting trip I sometimes take is down into the
central spinal column, where five of the seven main chakras often stand out
very clearly, the colours are somewhat different than Leadbeater's, he must
have made depictions of a person whose chakras were not totally in balance.
(Well, whose are eh?)In addition to the five (of seven) main chakras I also
see many other vortices and eddies so to say, all part of additional smaller
nerve plexes. I have been able to see and count the "petals" (more like
colourful interference patterns) inside the central spinal canal. Visualize
the central spinal canal as a tube containing cerebro-spinal fluid (CFS).
Imagine this liquid to be the most clear and crystalline viscous fluid.
Imagine spectral light shining up from the bottom and spectral light shining
down into this viscous tube from the top. The way these two spectral flows
colourfully and vibrationally interfere with each other produces the chakric
characteristics in colours or sounds or other vibrationary patterns
(fragrances even).The brow and crown chakras are different in nature as they
do not emanate from the spine proper but have more to do with the ventricles
(the CFS filled cavities inside the brain), the bit of CFS like gel inside
the pineal gland and the CFS substance inside the meninges that surround our
brain mass. The crown chakra indeed has 960 reverberations sometimes seen as
flower petals, sometimes as gyrations, sometimes as the thousand arms
(rotating) that surround the Buddha, sometimes as peacock feathers with many
coloured eyes, sometimes as a colourful umbra surrounding the whole human
body but often more visible as an umbrella above or indeed underneath us.
Oh, it is so wondrous... and the finest vibrations... You know we are
wondrous beings...
> Gopi Krishna claimed that chakras are pure
> imagination and do not actually exist.
> This is of course true of everything
> in the ultimate sense.
The ultimate sense is of course nonsense :-)
Love,
sensuously, senselessly and nonsensely,
Wim
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