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Recieved: 2000/09/02  13:08  
Subject: [K-list] Freedom of Religion, Freedom from Religion or the Reli 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2000/09/02  13:08, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: 
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Dear Dee,
 
You wrote: 
> The url, if anyone is interested in 
> taking the test (8 questions) is: 
> http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION/ 
> Hope no one is offended by this
 
No, not offended.
 
In fact the 100 score was right on: Mahayana Buddhism, the most liberal 
version of it though. The lowest score indicated Roman Catholicism, the 
religious tradition into which I was born... which for me actually lead into 
and culminated into Buddha's light of liberation.
 
During my upbringing, while being part of that very peculiar and tolerant 
Dutch way of being Roman Catholic, I picked up all the  Mahayana and 
Vajrayana ways of Buddhist liberation as though coming straight from the 
mouth of Jesus. Mind you, I read Greek and Latin, so I was able to read the 
New Testament in a description closer to the original Aramaic/Hellenistic 
words as spoken by Jesus, especially when one reads the Greek version of the 
gospel of the apostle John. The Latin translation is already too much of a 
deformation, the English "King James" version is even further from the 
original meaning. 
The old Trappist monk who taught me Greek, Latin, some Sanskrit, some 
Aramaic and some Hebrew always guided me back to the most original meaning 
of  words as used in the time they were spoken (not necessarily as recorded 
into later 'non congruent' contexts,) so that I would not understand words 
and realities of antiquity mixed up with current or traditional terms and 
coloured by current  and traditional concepts with often quite opposite 
meanings. (E.g. "Spirit" in the absolutely concrete meaning of Ruah or Prana 
or Breath as the most concrete life force and source of manifestation and 
physicality, instead of the later, even opposite and abstract meaning of the 
word:  the negation even of the physical.)
 
"Abstract" means: what is still left over as "undeniably real" after you 
pull off all the superficial. 
"The most abstract is the most concrete."
 
Ah, the good old days of Roman Catholicism under pope John 23 and the 
Vatican Council.
 
If I would not have had the mystical experiences of Christ's, Buddha's and 
other holy people's realities, larding, so to say, my more superficial ways 
of living and learning, I could of course contribute all this to 
chance-and-circumstance, karmic-debt-and-pay-off or the like.
 
I do not do that.
 
Freedom of will, clarity of vision, 'unfettered' being on all levels of 
reality is what every religion eventually should result in. When a religion 
does not, it "binds" according to the traditional and dictionary meaning of 
the word "religio". When a religion "unfetters", it re-integrates, as in the 
meaning of the word "religio" as putting lose and lost ends together.... a 
rope to swing into freedom.
 
Love, 
Tarzan  (;-) 
oops 
Wim
 
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