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Subject: Re: [K-list] K Energy and Meditation : LOL :-)) what a post !
From: Horia Cristescu
On 2000/08/13 22:43, Horia Cristescu posted thus to the K-list:
Hello Herma with love and passion,
Jerry did not say he was meditating correctly. I said that.
To you and to Jerry :
You just go ahead and do what you normally do. Stop meditating if that is
good for you. If you feel Kundalini is too strong then just shut it down,
maybe it's a good thing in some rare cases, since you can't face it at it's
level of intensity. The rest of us will meditate since meditation is also
the way to gradually control Kundalini.
If I hadn't meditated when my Kundalini awakened I would have stagnated and
suffered much more. At the very beginning my Kundalini was active on the
etheric body and it jumped in one single leap from Muladhara directly to
Sahasrara. It was strong and not pleasant in the beginning but I worked on
it and it's residence slowly made it's way up, inducing a state of bliss and
interior light that surpasses a thousand times everything I've ever felt
before.
Meditation is not only identifying with the form of Kundlaini as it is when
it makes you feel bad but making it be ever more subtle. As it becomes more
subtle the experiences shift from painful and forceful to bliss, light and
gentle sense of I-ness that is the most beautiful thing in the world, in my
experience.
How can you make Kundalini ever more subtle if you don't meditate on it's
most elevated form ? Kudalini that raises from Muladhara is different than
Kundlaini that raises from Ahnahata. When I experienced Kundlaini ascending
from Anahata into Sahasrara the space around me suddenly disappeared and I
felt like I had no limits in space, like my mind was blocked and the image
of infinite space was all that was left.
I must make a difference between meditating on Kundlaini on it's lowest
frequencies of resonance which can be harmful if K is already very active
and meditating on it's most subtle form that you can think of, which has an
effect of elevation and make it easier to put it under control so it is
useful.
So basically you are right in a way, but I am right also.
How could avoiding be the solution to a problem ? That is against common
sense.
You surely cannot evolve to self realization without facing Kundlaini along
the way, and choosing to avoid it is going backwards.
~~~
Horia.
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From: boomhm <boomhmATnospamwish.net>
To: Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups <Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com>; Horia
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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [K-list] K Energy and Meditation : LOL :-)) what a post !
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Horia Cristescu <horiaATnospamcyclop.net>
> Aan: Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups <Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com>
> Datum: maandag 14 augustus 2000 1:11
> Onderwerp: Re: [K-list] K Energy and Meditation : LOL :-)) what a post !
>
>
> Dear Horia,
>
> >Meditation can cause problems ONLY if it is done the wrong way. What
Jerry
> >should have said is that for him it was better to stop his meditation
> >because he was doing it all wrong and it caused him problems. He should
not
> >have produced the idea that meditation was wrong but the way he was doing
> >it was not the best.
>
> Who said that Jerry did his meditation wrong? If you are able to read the
> ancient scriptures, why aren't you able to read Jerries email? I admire
his
> honest and clear way of writing and he did not say that at all.
>
> I am also one who got the advise to stop meditating and to stop doing
yoga,
> if I did. (I didn't :-)
> I even was recommended to eat meat! once and a while...( I was a
> vegatarian).
>
> When my kundalini awoke (spontaneously), it awoke with such a force, that
I
> was not able to
> walk or to sit or to sleep for months.
> That was not because I had not done my meditaton-practises in a right way:
I
> had never meditated and that my kundalini awoke this way had also nothing
to
> do
> with the fact that I had not read the right books: I even did not know
what
> kundalini was,
> never heard of it :-))
>
> And yet, I was blessed with this enormous fire inside me, heavy movements
> of energy going continually through my system 24 hours a day...
>
> I was just a living fire (I still am), and when people come into my aura,
> sometimes they are going to say: 'help!'
> Then I ask, what's the matter? and they say, I am feeling fireballs coming
> from
> down up in my spine.....
>
> So maybe you can imagine, that if I am going to meditate, the fire will
just
> be bigger and it is already too much for my system...
> That was the reason why I was suggested not to meditate...
> (I do pray, that's something else)...
>
> >And finally, to the rest of us, I want to say that Kudalini activity is
NOT
> >the stop sign for meditation. Yes, it may be rough some times but we must
> >study ancient writings about Kundalini and practice meditation to keep it
> >under control.
>
> Haha, do you know what happens when I just start to read Bonnie
Greenwell's
> book about kundalini?
> The fire in me is resonating with what I read, so it just increases the
> movements
> of kundalini-energy...
>
> Ramakrishna is one of my most favourite saints. So sometimes I go to the
> library to get the book about Ramakrishna.....
> That is big party, because the energies are really going to dance and I
have
> to put myself together not to leave my body....
>
> So, this can be kundalini as well....
>
> >Why do you want to scare the beginners ? Let them meditate and don't
> >insinuate fear into their minds at a moment when they are susceptible to
> >believe anything that is said in a chat board because of a lack of
> >experience.
>
> My advise: meditate when you feel it's o.k. to meditate and read the
> scriptures when it feels o.k. to read the scriptures, but don't think that
> the Goddess Kundalini has just one way to reveal Herself!
>
> with love and passion
> Herma
>
>
>
>
>
>
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