To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/08/08 01:26
Subject: Re: [K-list] Gabriel, Raphael, Michael.
From: Wim Borsboom

Dear Mark

You wrote:
> In response to aurasphere:
Mark, my name is Wim.

> If it were not, then it would be 'too personal' for public discussion.
> I leave those things to be discussed between God and myself. As
> to what I allow myself to experience, that is not your concern.

There is no separation between "God and yourself", "God and me" and "You and
me." God is One, God is in EveryOne and all are One in God.
Although I acknowledge your holding back and want to respect it, I also have
to question it as this is a (selective) public list about Kundalini... This
is a forum where we can and want to learn and find out from each other...
Nothing can be "too personal for public discussion". The nature of this list
is that it is about the experience of Kundalini energy and its cleansing,
harmonizing and balancing process. If pride is a problem, or some other
attitudinal status that needs to be protected than this is the place to
"undress" yourself... This list is not that public, if something in you can
not stand the scrutiny of fellow human beings how can it stand scrutiny by
God. God works through human beings, it has never been otherwise except in
the experience of pathological beings. Even Jesus was as honest as to let go
of his pride, why not you, lest his existence has been in vain. People on
this list have themselves suffered enough to understand what you have been
or are going through...
  "gods -r- us" (c) 2000
and we definitely want to compassionately understand and support.
By the way, pride is one of the hardest nuts that Kundalini energy has to
crack and self-esteem and self-appreciation stay in tact as pride gets
smashed.
I am sure God would not mind if you spoke out off class... You are no
secrets to him why would you be a secret us...?
In love, truth and light everyone is everyone's concern, such is the result
of the Buddha's bodhisattva vow. From him onwards everyone is at least a
bodhisattva to be, just as from Christ on everyone has been touched by his
anointment. You surely understand that.
You are starting to remind me of Alan Watts... I mean this well, I love the
man. He has done a lot for integrating the west and the east, for there to
be less separation.
He did come to statements such as yours...
> As to what I allow myself to experience, that is not your concern.

We are all in this together Mark, separation is only in the mind of the
separator...
This is my last time of asking you to open up, I promise

With love,
Wim

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